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	<title>Comments on: David Icke: Avatar Movie &#8211; A Story of Earth&#8230;In Reverse</title>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.collective-evolution.com/2010/02/21/david-icke-avatar-movie-a-story-of-earth-in-reverse/#comment-2681</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 16:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been VERY interesting to say the least!  I am glad to know that there are free thinkers out here.  I found this article after seeing the movie Avatar and thinking to myself... &quot;well, that was a great movie... our bible would have read differently had we fought for ourselves as the Na&#039;vi did&quot;  So, I decided to google &quot;was the Avatar story similar to what happened to Humanity?&quot;  and this article was the first that popped up...   At first I was exited because someone was thinking like me... but then I saw all of the different views and it&#039;s a lot of food for thought! 

Now, I don&#039;t have any degrees and my vocabulary isn&#039;t as extensive as some that have commented.  Quite honestly, I don&#039;t understand most of what some said.  But at the end of the day, here is what I do believe so far.... 

There is a Creator (whatever you chose to call him is up to you)  and He created humans for His own purpose (it is His privilege to conceal that purpose).  I futher believe that there was a disagreement in Heaven and in order to eridicate the cause of this disruption, The Creator had to allow the perpetrator to &#039;prove&#039; his point.  Yes, I believe that on judgement day, Lucifer is looking to make a &#039;case&#039; before The Creator and as many followers as he (Lucifer) has, the better a chance he has to &#039;prove&#039; his case.  

The reason I think that The Creator showed us grace and mercy is probably because Lucifer use trickery to get us to fall for his cause.  If he (Lucifer) had been honest and we still chose to trust in him instead of our Maker, then I don&#039;t think we would have gotten another chance.  

Now the story of the Reptillian race, I will not say is true or untrue because I have not experience it so can not decide for myself.  But stranger things have/will happen. Jesus said that His Fathers house has many mansions...  There are people that are bent on doing evil, even I, prior to answering my Creator, did evil things.  Things that I am embarrased and am ashamed of.  He loves me and everyone and everything.  Even Lucifer.  He understands all of our emotions and thoughts.  Afterall, He made them.  In due time, He will reset the system to where we can all live in harmony and His will will be our will (willingly).  (this is were I understand where Nobleman is coming from... he feels that God needed us to know evil in order to choose good not just because He said so but because goodness is the right way- being &#039;good&#039; will not destroy us)

I do think that money is the root of ALL evil.  IF there is a race of Reptillians, what they use to confuse and mislead us is MONEY.  The more of it we have, the more powerful we feel.  But the truth is, we don&#039;t need money.  If we could find a way to live without money, we will be able to reset the balance by ourselves.  But unfortunately, our minds have become so corrupted that even the thought of living without money has some of us hyperventaling this very moment!  

If the Creator doesn&#039;t step in as promised in the Bible, we will self-distruct.  We are like babies... making noise and taking what we want without much thought to the consequenses of our actions.  All we need to do is treat each and every one as we should... as a part of ONE.  

But of course, no one knows anything for sure.  All of this is just a matter of opinion and experience.  

Life is God experiencing Himself... (IMO)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been VERY interesting to say the least!  I am glad to know that there are free thinkers out here.  I found this article after seeing the movie Avatar and thinking to myself&#8230; &#8220;well, that was a great movie&#8230; our bible would have read differently had we fought for ourselves as the Na&#8217;vi did&#8221;  So, I decided to google &#8220;was the Avatar story similar to what happened to Humanity?&#8221;  and this article was the first that popped up&#8230;   At first I was exited because someone was thinking like me&#8230; but then I saw all of the different views and it&#8217;s a lot of food for thought! </p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t have any degrees and my vocabulary isn&#8217;t as extensive as some that have commented.  Quite honestly, I don&#8217;t understand most of what some said.  But at the end of the day, here is what I do believe so far&#8230;. </p>
<p>There is a Creator (whatever you chose to call him is up to you)  and He created humans for His own purpose (it is His privilege to conceal that purpose).  I futher believe that there was a disagreement in Heaven and in order to eridicate the cause of this disruption, The Creator had to allow the perpetrator to &#8216;prove&#8217; his point.  Yes, I believe that on judgement day, Lucifer is looking to make a &#8216;case&#8217; before The Creator and as many followers as he (Lucifer) has, the better a chance he has to &#8216;prove&#8217; his case.  </p>
<p>The reason I think that The Creator showed us grace and mercy is probably because Lucifer use trickery to get us to fall for his cause.  If he (Lucifer) had been honest and we still chose to trust in him instead of our Maker, then I don&#8217;t think we would have gotten another chance.  </p>
<p>Now the story of the Reptillian race, I will not say is true or untrue because I have not experience it so can not decide for myself.  But stranger things have/will happen. Jesus said that His Fathers house has many mansions&#8230;  There are people that are bent on doing evil, even I, prior to answering my Creator, did evil things.  Things that I am embarrased and am ashamed of.  He loves me and everyone and everything.  Even Lucifer.  He understands all of our emotions and thoughts.  Afterall, He made them.  In due time, He will reset the system to where we can all live in harmony and His will will be our will (willingly).  (this is were I understand where Nobleman is coming from&#8230; he feels that God needed us to know evil in order to choose good not just because He said so but because goodness is the right way- being &#8216;good&#8217; will not destroy us)</p>
<p>I do think that money is the root of ALL evil.  IF there is a race of Reptillians, what they use to confuse and mislead us is MONEY.  The more of it we have, the more powerful we feel.  But the truth is, we don&#8217;t need money.  If we could find a way to live without money, we will be able to reset the balance by ourselves.  But unfortunately, our minds have become so corrupted that even the thought of living without money has some of us hyperventaling this very moment!  </p>
<p>If the Creator doesn&#8217;t step in as promised in the Bible, we will self-distruct.  We are like babies&#8230; making noise and taking what we want without much thought to the consequenses of our actions.  All we need to do is treat each and every one as we should&#8230; as a part of ONE.  </p>
<p>But of course, no one knows anything for sure.  All of this is just a matter of opinion and experience.  </p>
<p>Life is God experiencing Himself&#8230; (IMO)</p>
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		<title>By: brenda</title>
		<link>http://www.collective-evolution.com/2010/02/21/david-icke-avatar-movie-a-story-of-earth-in-reverse/#comment-1866</link>
		<dc:creator>brenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly people,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i really needed a good laugh, thanks a lot...brought tears.......get a life DONT CHANGE YOUR DAY JOB...SMELL THE ROSES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly people,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i really needed a good laugh, thanks a lot&#8230;brought tears&#8230;&#8230;.get a life DONT CHANGE YOUR DAY JOB&#8230;SMELL THE ROSES.</p>
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		<title>By: N3XT</title>
		<link>http://www.collective-evolution.com/2010/02/21/david-icke-avatar-movie-a-story-of-earth-in-reverse/#comment-1842</link>
		<dc:creator>N3XT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just my 2 cents on the doubters of the whole reptilian conversation.  Just because you have not experienced something doesn&#039;t make it real.  I hope for your sake that you never have to deal with them.  The overall bunch of them are ruthless, hateful and less than friendly.  I&#039;ve had a number of first hand encounters with them and some of the other negative hyper dimensional races of star visitors including the Annunaki and my experience amounted to several months of psychic attacks that were unrelenting because I went looking for answers in the higher dimensional ether&#039;s.  If you&#039;d like the truth, go learn to access the Akashic Records and see what comes back to you on this subject or learn to Astrally Project and go take a look at the dark side of the moon or why not learn to communicate with your higher self and ask it what the whole deal is with this?  I guarantee you the majority of these groups that have been mentioned do not support the evolution of consciousness and will and do actively seek to curtail it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just my 2 cents on the doubters of the whole reptilian conversation.  Just because you have not experienced something doesn&#8217;t make it real.  I hope for your sake that you never have to deal with them.  The overall bunch of them are ruthless, hateful and less than friendly.  I&#8217;ve had a number of first hand encounters with them and some of the other negative hyper dimensional races of star visitors including the Annunaki and my experience amounted to several months of psychic attacks that were unrelenting because I went looking for answers in the higher dimensional ether&#8217;s.  If you&#8217;d like the truth, go learn to access the Akashic Records and see what comes back to you on this subject or learn to Astrally Project and go take a look at the dark side of the moon or why not learn to communicate with your higher self and ask it what the whole deal is with this?  I guarantee you the majority of these groups that have been mentioned do not support the evolution of consciousness and will and do actively seek to curtail it.</p>
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		<title>By: Pachacamac</title>
		<link>http://www.collective-evolution.com/2010/02/21/david-icke-avatar-movie-a-story-of-earth-in-reverse/#comment-1814</link>
		<dc:creator>Pachacamac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are all deluded, except for Mr. Icke who is probably got a nicely stuffed bank account on the back of internet retards. I know - my current incarnation channels Barney the Dinosaur, king of the reptilian invaders, and he says it&#039;s all rubbish. 
The real lizard rulers would never let you bunch of neo - occultists get all new agey in such a public way would they?
Unless you are all lizards! Arrrgh!
Maybe David is. He looks a bit like one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are all deluded, except for Mr. Icke who is probably got a nicely stuffed bank account on the back of internet retards. I know &#8211; my current incarnation channels Barney the Dinosaur, king of the reptilian invaders, and he says it&#8217;s all rubbish.<br />
The real lizard rulers would never let you bunch of neo &#8211; occultists get all new agey in such a public way would they?<br />
Unless you are all lizards! Arrrgh!<br />
Maybe David is. He looks a bit like one.</p>
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		<title>By: TONE</title>
		<link>http://www.collective-evolution.com/2010/02/21/david-icke-avatar-movie-a-story-of-earth-in-reverse/#comment-1651</link>
		<dc:creator>TONE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 03:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They  say  that  icke  work  for the  system that  he  is a  spy  for the system  ,    but  i go  lots  of  information  from  him  over the years   ,,   he  his the one that got me starting  on  being conscious and aware  of what is going  on  in the world   so for me  Mr icke   keep up the good works</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They  say  that  icke  work  for the  system that  he  is a  spy  for the system  ,    but  i go  lots  of  information  from  him  over the years   ,,   he  his the one that got me starting  on  being conscious and aware  of what is going  on  in the world   so for me  Mr icke   keep up the good works</p>
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		<title>By: Insight</title>
		<link>http://www.collective-evolution.com/2010/02/21/david-icke-avatar-movie-a-story-of-earth-in-reverse/#comment-1493</link>
		<dc:creator>Insight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be interested to see a comparison in the education levels of those that believe in reptiles and those that understand the id, ego and human psychology/insanity.

Icke has such wonderful things to say about human kind and how we lost our way but seems to lose reality with the reptilian angle

or is that just a ploy?

anyone who knows basic psychology would know that the monster/reptilians are us, HUMANS, who are ungrateful beings sick with the fantasy that the world revolves around us (babies) with the wish to suffer.  Blaming reptiles doesnt help us to get better.

we are not victims of reptiles.  we may be under a human power influence (conspiracy yes) but they are as Human as we are.  just had a lot more money a lot earlier and have been able to control society.

they are the ones who want us to believe in reptiles

so ask your self this - who is Icke really working for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be interested to see a comparison in the education levels of those that believe in reptiles and those that understand the id, ego and human psychology/insanity.</p>
<p>Icke has such wonderful things to say about human kind and how we lost our way but seems to lose reality with the reptilian angle</p>
<p>or is that just a ploy?</p>
<p>anyone who knows basic psychology would know that the monster/reptilians are us, HUMANS, who are ungrateful beings sick with the fantasy that the world revolves around us (babies) with the wish to suffer.  Blaming reptiles doesnt help us to get better.</p>
<p>we are not victims of reptiles.  we may be under a human power influence (conspiracy yes) but they are as Human as we are.  just had a lot more money a lot earlier and have been able to control society.</p>
<p>they are the ones who want us to believe in reptiles</p>
<p>so ask your self this &#8211; who is Icke really working for?</p>
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		<title>By: Drake</title>
		<link>http://www.collective-evolution.com/2010/02/21/david-icke-avatar-movie-a-story-of-earth-in-reverse/#comment-1423</link>
		<dc:creator>Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this article, David Icke  gives two examples of humans who have, according to him, shucked off &#039;Reptilian&#039; control.  One is a human math computer (whose ability is related to a known pattern of brain truama) and the other is a human CAD machine.  

Both of these individuals are outstanding in their abilities, but what does this have to do with Avatar and . . . Reptilians?  Really, nothing.  This is just another opportunity for David Icke to bash crypto-indigenous beings and to slavishly serve as a puppet promoting the agenda of hypercortical appliances, aka the Greys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this article, David Icke  gives two examples of humans who have, according to him, shucked off &#8216;Reptilian&#8217; control.  One is a human math computer (whose ability is related to a known pattern of brain truama) and the other is a human CAD machine.  </p>
<p>Both of these individuals are outstanding in their abilities, but what does this have to do with Avatar and . . . Reptilians?  Really, nothing.  This is just another opportunity for David Icke to bash crypto-indigenous beings and to slavishly serve as a puppet promoting the agenda of hypercortical appliances, aka the Greys.</p>
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		<title>By: knowing</title>
		<link>http://www.collective-evolution.com/2010/02/21/david-icke-avatar-movie-a-story-of-earth-in-reverse/#comment-1411</link>
		<dc:creator>knowing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Artha ,

Just interested in what you say.  I don&#039;t think people cant&#039;t see phenomena just because they are brainwashed to believe they are not there.  While the conditioned mind clearly ignores what it does not want to see on some level, there are plenty of people who were completely closed prior to thier experience of other worldly phenomena and then still had a life changing experience and due to thier experience of various phenomena.  Also it is often the case that certain people see things as a result of enhanced perception that most people ordinarily do not have, therefore its a case of subtle biological mechanics much of the time.  Obviously being conditioned in a certain way plays a role, but thier are plenty of people who are completely open minded who have never experienced anything beyond ordinary reality and so therefore I believe that it is wrong to put peoples lack of experience of phenomena down to their blinded belief system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Artha ,</p>
<p>Just interested in what you say.  I don&#8217;t think people cant&#8217;t see phenomena just because they are brainwashed to believe they are not there.  While the conditioned mind clearly ignores what it does not want to see on some level, there are plenty of people who were completely closed prior to thier experience of other worldly phenomena and then still had a life changing experience and due to thier experience of various phenomena.  Also it is often the case that certain people see things as a result of enhanced perception that most people ordinarily do not have, therefore its a case of subtle biological mechanics much of the time.  Obviously being conditioned in a certain way plays a role, but thier are plenty of people who are completely open minded who have never experienced anything beyond ordinary reality and so therefore I believe that it is wrong to put peoples lack of experience of phenomena down to their blinded belief system.</p>
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		<title>By: Artha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobleman:

You say there are no reptilians, but I have personal experience of their existence, actual physical damage to my body, the touch of its skin under my hand.  More than once. They are more real than the bullshit electrons you post here, ever seen one of those?

You talk of God and prayer, but what proof do you have of the existence of god? Have you anything to offer besides coincidences and intellectual rhetoric? Why does one of your intellect never apply the rules of logic to themselves?

If you have no personal experience with reptilians just butt out, and leave them for us with more than just opinions to deal with.  

There are two possibilities to who you are. Either you are reptilian, working here to obfuscate the situation, or you are a person with a belief system that blinds you so heavily that would be unable to see a reptilian that walked across the room, like the indigenous people who were unable to see the ships of Darwin&#039;s party.

That your post was the first entry here is not a coincidence either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobleman:</p>
<p>You say there are no reptilians, but I have personal experience of their existence, actual physical damage to my body, the touch of its skin under my hand.  More than once. They are more real than the bullshit electrons you post here, ever seen one of those?</p>
<p>You talk of God and prayer, but what proof do you have of the existence of god? Have you anything to offer besides coincidences and intellectual rhetoric? Why does one of your intellect never apply the rules of logic to themselves?</p>
<p>If you have no personal experience with reptilians just butt out, and leave them for us with more than just opinions to deal with.  </p>
<p>There are two possibilities to who you are. Either you are reptilian, working here to obfuscate the situation, or you are a person with a belief system that blinds you so heavily that would be unable to see a reptilian that walked across the room, like the indigenous people who were unable to see the ships of Darwin&#8217;s party.</p>
<p>That your post was the first entry here is not a coincidence either.</p>
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		<title>By: Endgame</title>
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		<dc:creator>Endgame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;comment-1297&quot;&gt;

There are lizards at work within the realms of man, but they are not from outer space but inner space ;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_brain&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_brain&lt;/a&gt;The triune brain is a model proposed by Paul D. MacLean to explain the function of traces of evolution existing in the structure of the human brain. In this model, the brain is broken down into three separate brains that have their own special intelligence, subjectivity, sense of time and space, and memory[1]. The triune brain consists of the R-complex, the limbic system, and the neocortex. Though still popular among some psychiatrists, the triune brain model is not accepted by researchers in comparative, evolutionary neuroanatomyThe R-complex, also known as the “Reptilian brain”, includes the brain stem and cerebellum. The term “Reptilian brain” comes from the fact that a reptile’s brain is dominated by the brain stem and cerebellum which controls instinctual survival behaviors and thinking. This brain controls the muscles, balance and autonomic functions (e.g. breathing and heartbeat).[1] It is, thus, primarily reactive to direct stimuli.When David sees a ‘lizard’ at work, he sees the actions of the R-Complex at work within humans and hence in human society.We are ruled by Lizards, the lizards that were once our ancestors and who still exist within our minds.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The reptiles created this inside the body, and also all the DNA codes that rule you.  They are here and maybe we will be lucky and they will try to take over the Earth overtly, and use us for food.  
Tell them to fuck off, you cant die before your time, and even if they do kill you, you can have fun in the astral.</description>
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<p>There are lizards at work within the realms of man, but they are not from outer space but inner space ;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_brain" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_brain</a>The triune brain is a model proposed by Paul D. MacLean to explain the function of traces of evolution existing in the structure of the human brain. In this model, the brain is broken down into three separate brains that have their own special intelligence, subjectivity, sense of time and space, and memory[1]. The triune brain consists of the R-complex, the limbic system, and the neocortex. Though still popular among some psychiatrists, the triune brain model is not accepted by researchers in comparative, evolutionary neuroanatomyThe R-complex, also known as the “Reptilian brain”, includes the brain stem and cerebellum. The term “Reptilian brain” comes from the fact that a reptile’s brain is dominated by the brain stem and cerebellum which controls instinctual survival behaviors and thinking. This brain controls the muscles, balance and autonomic functions (e.g. breathing and heartbeat).[1] It is, thus, primarily reactive to direct stimuli.When David sees a ‘lizard’ at work, he sees the actions of the R-Complex at work within humans and hence in human society.We are ruled by Lizards, the lizards that were once our ancestors and who still exist within our minds.</p>
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<p>The reptiles created this inside the body, and also all the DNA codes that rule you.  They are here and maybe we will be lucky and they will try to take over the Earth overtly, and use us for food.<br />
Tell them to fuck off, you cant die before your time, and even if they do kill you, you can have fun in the astral.</p>
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