24 Hard Facts About 9/11 That Cannot Be Debunked

January 18, 2013 by Joe Martino

9/11 has been one of the biggest events in recent history that sparked a mass awakening across the world. There has been much debate as to how it happened, who is responsible and why. To this day about 1/3 of americans do not believe the official story. In other areas of the world as much as 90% of the country does not believe the official story.

Here is a list of 24 facts that cannot be debunked about 9/11.

1) Nano Thermite was found in the dust at Ground Zero. Peer reviewed in the Bentham Open Chemical Physics Journal. ‘Niels Harrit’, ‘Thermite Bentham’, “The great thermate debate” Jon Cole, ‘Iron rich spheres’ Steven Jones, ‘Limited Metallurgical Examination (FEMA C-13, Appendix C-6)’. ‘Nano Tubes’

2) 1700+ Engineers and Architects support a real independent 9/11 investigation. Richard Gage, Founder. ‘Explosive Evidence’, ‘Blueprint for Truth’, ‘AE911′, ‘Toronto Hearings’, ‘Kevin Ryan’.

3) The total collapse of WTC 7 in 6.5 seconds at free fall acceleration (NIST admits 2.25 seconds). Larry Silverstein used the term “Pull it”. Steel framed high rise buildings have NEVER totally collapsed from fire or structural damage. Builidng 7 was not hit by a plane. ‘Building 7′, ‘WTC 7′.

4) Dick Cheney was in command of NORAD on 9/11 while running war games. ‘Stand down order’. “Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary?”. Norman Minetta testimony. “Gave order to shootdown Flight 93.”, ‘NORAD Drills’.

5) 6 out of the 10 Commissioners believe the 9/11 Commission report was “Setup to fail” Co-Chairs Hamilton and Kean, “It was a 30 year conspiracy”, “The whitehouse has played cover up”, ‘Max Cleland resigned’, ‘John Farmer’.

6) FBI confiscated 84/85 Videos from the Pentagon. ‘Moussaoui trial’ revealed these videos. Released Pentagon Security Camera (FOIA) does not show a 757 and is clearly Missing a frame. ‘Sheraton Hotel’, “Double tree’, ‘Citgo”.

7) Osama Bin Laden was NOT wanted by the FBI for the 9/11 attacks. “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” CIA created, trained and funded “Al Qaeda/Taliban” during the Mujahideen. OBL was a CIA asset named ‘Tim Osman’. OBL Reported dead in Dec 2001 (FOX).

8)100′s of Firefighters and witness testimony to BOMBS/EXPLOSIONS ignored by the 9/11 Commission Report. 9/11 Commission Report bars 503 1st responder eyewitnesses. “Explosions in the lobby and sub levels”, ‘Firefighter explosions’, ‘Barry Jennings’, ‘William Rodriguez’.

9) 100′s of firefighters and witness testimony to MOLTEN METAL ignored by the Commission report. “Like you’re in a foundry”, “NIST’s John Gross denies the existence of Molten Metal”, ‘Swiss Cheese’, “As of 21 days after the attack, the fires were still burning and molten steel was still running.” Leslie Robertson’.

10) ’5 Dancing Israeli’s’ arrested in ‘Mossad Truck Bombs’ on 9/11 that stated “We were there to document the event.” ‘Urban Moving Systems’ front company, ‘Dominic Suter’. “$498,750 Business loan (June 2001)”. “Officer DeCarlo’, ‘Art Students’, ‘Israeli Spying’.

11) On September 10th, 2001. Rumsfeld reported $2.3 TRILLION missing from the Pentagon. ‘Dov Zakheim’ Pentagon Comptroller. Former VP of ‘Systems Planning Corporation’ (Flight Termination System). Signatore of PNAC document.

12) 220+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials question the official story. ’9/11 Whistleblowers’, ‘Patriots for 9/11′. ‘Robert Bowman’, ‘Sibel Edmonds’, ‘Albert Stubblebine’, ‘Wesley Clark’, ‘Mark Dayton’, ‘Alan Sabrosky’, ‘Cyntha McKinney’, ‘Jesse Ventura’, ‘Kurt Sonnenfeld’. “patriotsquestion911.com”

13) Towers were built to withstand a Boeing jet(s). “I designed it for a 707 to hit it”, Leslie Robertson, WTC structural engineer. “Could probably sustain multiple impacts of jetliners”, “like a pencil puncturing screen netting” Frank De Martini, deceased Manager of WTC Construction & Project Management. “As far as a plane knocking a building over, that would not happen.” Charlie Thornton, Structural Engineer.

14) History of American False Flag attacks. ‘USS Liberty’, ‘Gulf of Tonkin’, ‘Operation Northwoods’, ‘OKC Bombing (Murrah Building)’, ’1993 WTC attacks’. ‘Patrick Clawson’. Project for the New American Century (PNAC) needed “a New Pearl Harbor”, “Rebuilding America’s Defenses”. 9/11 Achieved those goals.

15) BBC correspondent Jane Standley reported the collapse of WTC 7 (Soloman Brothers building) 20 minutes before it happened. CNN/FOX/MSNBC also had early reports. ‘BBC wtc 7′, ‘Jane Standley’, Ashleigh Banfield’.

16) “Flight 93″ debris was spread out over many miles. Cheney admits to giving the order to shootdown 93. “shot down the plane over Pennsylvania” Rumsfeld, “nothing that you could distinguish that a plane had crashed there” ‘Chris Konicki. “Not a drop of blood” Coroner Wallace Miller. “there was no plane.” Mayor Ernie Stull.

17) Bush hesitated for 441 days before starting the 911 Commission. ‘Jersey Girls’. ‘Phil Zelikow’ already wrote the outline before the commission began. Steel shipped over seas. Obstruction of justice. JFK and Pearl Harbor commissions were started within 7 days.

18) The 911 commission was given extremely limited funds. $15 million was given to investigate 9/11. (Over $60 Million was spent investigating Clintons’ affairs with Monica).

19) Bush said he watched the first plane crash into the North tower on TV before entering the classroom. “The TV was obviously on.” Was informed about the second impact while reading ‘My Pet Goat’ to the children. Remained for at least 8 more minutes while America was under “attack”.

20) The PATRIOT ACT was written before 9/11. Signed into law October 26th, 2001.

21) Marvin Bush was director of Stratasec (Securacom, ‘KuAm’) which was in charge of security of the WTC, United Airlines and Dulles International Airport. All three were breached on 9/11. ICTS was another company that provided security at the airports. ‘Wirt Walker’, ‘Ezra Harel’, ‘ICTS”, ‘WTC power downs’.

22) “Who killed John O’Neil?”. Former FBI task force agent investigating Al Qaeda/Bin Laden. Transferred by Kroll Corporation to head the security just before 9/11. John O’Neil died in the Towers. ‘Jerome Hauer’ ‘Jules Kroll’.

23) Insider trading based upon foreknowledge. ‘Put Options.’ Never identified insiders made millions. ‘United and American Airlines’ ‘Raytheon.’

24) At least 7 of the 19 listed highjackers are still alive (BBC). No video footage of 19 highjackers or passengers boarding the 4 planes. Pilots of the 4 planes never squawked the highjacking code. ‘Alive highjackers’, ‘ACARS’, ‘Pilots for 9/11 Truth’.

WTC 7 (The Smoking Gun)

http://rememberbuilding7.org/

Building 7 was a 47-story skyscraper and was part of the World Trade Center complex. Built in 1984, it would have been the tallest high-rise in 33 states in the United States. It collapsed at 5:20 pm on September 11, 2001 in 6.5 Seconds at free fall acceleration. It was not hit by an airplane and suffered minimal damage compared to other buildings much closer to the Twin Towers.

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Credit to https://www.facebook.com/kendoc911 and this awesome group https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204686781/ for putting together the list.

About the author

Joe Martino

Hey! You are currently engaged in what I'm passionate about, Collective Evolution. I created CE 4 years ago and have been heavily at it since. I love inspiring others to make change and am excited to play an active role in making this all happen. I've been researching much of the content I share for about 7 years and apply the same wisdom I share to others to my own life. Hands down the only other thing I am this passionate about is baseball. Feel free to email me at joe@collective-evolution.com

178 comments on “24 Hard Facts About 9/11 That Cannot Be Debunked”

Phillip Marsh
January 18, 2013 at 8:54 pm

The mayor of new york stated in a press conference just after the collapse of WTC7 that the building was brought down with controlled demolition due to structural damage. Only those watching the news that evening saw this … the next day the story was changed. Controlled demolition takes months of planning and weeks to set up … not hours.

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- puppypincher
  April 5, 2013 at 8:05 pm
  
  Dr Judy Wood has brought us closer to the truth than any other researcher in this area through her monumental work Where Did The Towers Go?. http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/ is bursting with hard scientific facts proving the depth of this conspiracy. This is one of the most significant books of our time. It teaches us that seismic readings from across the US on 9/11 prove what the footage reveals: those two 500,000 tonne towers were turned into powder before they hit the ground. The Directed Energy Weapon used to achieve this remarkable feat was obviously not deployed and covered up by Al Qaeda.
  
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  - nausmr
    April 7, 2013 at 11:24 pm
    
    I concur with puppypincher and I want to add that before you draw at any conclusions like controlled demolition as being the cause of destruction be sure you find all the available empirical evidence and then use your own critical thinking skills to determine what happened at the WTC complex. I also recommend Dr. Judy Wood’s book, “Where Did The Towers Go?” to find more empirical evidence that the researchers who promote controlled demolition very seldom talk about.
    
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    - Ebymby
      April 8, 2013 at 3:46 pm
      
      Judy Wood is a disinfo agent who intends to make 9/11 Truth movement appear ridiculous by suggesting “space beams” brought down the tower. She is a paid shill whose theories do not rely at all on the scientific method. She has appeared in zero peer-reviewed journals.
      
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      - puppypincher
        April 9, 2013 at 5:14 pm
        
        You have not of course challenged any of the evidence only attempted to discredit Dr Wood’s character! That kind of thing doesn’t work any more especially when one compares your little bundle of theories about her with her detailed scientific findings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1NbBxDGSkI
      - Think!
        April 15, 2013 at 4:53 pm
        
        You wanna know why she isn’t in peer reviewed journals? Because the ‘Peers’ are bought out and controlled you idiot!
      - albury
        May 11, 2013 at 10:17 am
        
        If the 9/11 “truth movement” ever had to show us on video with audio the secret explosive cutting of W14 X 730 columns like the ones in all 4 corners of the towers’ cores, and 11 of the 24 in WTC 7′s core, the 4.91″ flanges and 3.07″ webs would be all that’s necessary to make them “appear ridiculous.”
- fred
  May 14, 2013 at 12:15 am
  
  i was actually there with 2 blocks away with about 50 medics and cops. they started shout back like a bicketbrigade line, they’re bringin down 7, move back. at that point everoyone from the the front of that line started running towards us. we were between the bridge and 7 and within minutes it was calamity. one cop fell, and her gun when spinning past my feet. two nurse scooped her up and she scrambled to pock up her gun and kept running. i just ran back with theme, but there wasnt really any debris/smoke like the main buildings. eventually i came back up the hill and walked further south. it was a complete ghost town, quiet and snowing ash. completely surreal.
  
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  - fred
    May 14, 2013 at 12:17 am
    
    sorry for the spelling, was typed on my phone.
    
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  - albury
    May 15, 2013 at 8:10 am
    
    WHO was saying “they’re bringin down 7″? If you were 2 blocks away, how many demolition charges did you hear before and during the collapse? You were 2 blocks away because the FDNY decided to set up a safety perimeter around the burning hi-rise at ~2:30 PM, citing concerns over the fire-induced structural instability.
    
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    - fred
      May 15, 2013 at 2:45 pm
      
      I do not know the source of the initial warning. We were on Park Row near Ann St. The call started from people that where near Church St, and they were calling back to others “they’re bringin down 7… move back, move back”. The crowd for the most part ran back towards that one overpass where it splits out several ways.
      
      As for how I got through, at this point there was not a unified barrier. As we were coming down from uptown, they were blocking off random streets, but there wasn’t enough man power to keep it on everyblock. The other two guys I was with split off just before we got through to the park there, as it was getting harder to sneak through the lines as things got more coordinated. It was the NYPD not the NYFD that were keeping the lines. NYFD were further down south past Gold St, I have one photo of the clock (by that time it was around 2:30 if i recall), and 30 or so them sitting underneath just completely defeated cleaning their eyes and so on.
      
      I made it about 6 or so more blocks south to around Dey st and came back up, walking along broadway, and like I said there was no one anywhere, no cops, nothing. just smashed cars, ambulances, and everything covered in a about 6 inches of white powdery soot, litered with everything imaginable from the tower, shoes, post cards from vacations, notes and papers from peoples desks all kinds of odd things you find in an office building.
      
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Phillip Marsh
January 18, 2013 at 8:56 pm

Also not mentioned is that the owner of the two towers was facing a huge build to bring the buildings up to code. Just a couple of months before 9/11 he just happened to take out a terrorist attack policy. Does anyone find this interesting timing? Lucky for him they attacked AFTER he got the insurance.

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- Marishka Noyb
  January 21, 2013 at 10:39 pm
  
  Don’t forget all the asbestos in the building that had to be removed too.
  
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  - albury
    May 11, 2013 at 10:40 am
    
    There was NO asbestos in the South Tower or WTC 7, and only the bottom 39 floors of the North Tower had any, most of which had been removed in various tenant fit-outs prior to 2001. The code change took effect after the North Tower was closed in, so some “hot” SFRM was used there until its use was outlawed.
    
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    - fred
      May 15, 2013 at 2:57 pm
      
      read above about where I was, but there was def something. near the end of me walking back up Broadway from Dey, my skin and eyes started to burn a bit, from the ash that was falling like snow. It wasn’t until I got all the way back up to the top near Park Row, that I was just ready to get out of there. A cop walk up and asked if I was ok cuz i couldn’t see very well at that point, and said politely maybe I should leave. I said yup, having a hard time seeing, leaving now. God only knows what was in the air that day, though I’ll never forget that smell (plastic, rubber, metal and god knows what else burning).
      
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      - albury
        May 16, 2013 at 6:29 pm
        
        The dust and smoke were undoubtedly highly toxic, and there’s asbestos in most buildings, but there was not an “asbestos problem” in any of the 3 collapsed WTC hi-rises because of the code change while the towers were being built and the abatement in the North Tower’s lower floors done well before 2001.
gabereal88
January 18, 2013 at 8:57 pm

wow, didn’t know about that last one. there should definitely be some video footage of the hijackers going through the gates.

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- quinazagga
  February 9, 2013 at 10:42 am
  
  There is and more data on http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution.html
  That link will give you a lot of downloadable footage and data on the Hijackers whom were wanted by Interpol. The fact is that unless they acted domestically in an act of terror they would not be wanted by any domestic branch
  
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johnsie@nospam.com
January 18, 2013 at 9:43 pm

Post your sources please. There’s no point making these claims without proper linkage.

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- unsureofanything
  January 18, 2013 at 10:01 pm
  
  If you’ve been paying attention for the past decade, like me, you would have seen sources for all of this.
  
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  - mikah
    April 29, 2013 at 10:38 am
    
    really why they had to blame us for they problems
    
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    - tania
      May 5, 2013 at 7:29 pm
      
      I am so glad that everbody now understands,, even if you are many many years behind.
      Now we need all focus on two other topic’s… The Terminator seed, which is going to wipe out the food as we know it… full control over the food is the way to rule the people… and 2. The FEMA coffin’s and camps.. Now my belief is that they are not dispossible,, and this is why they call them dispossible..” Because I bet they are not.”
      why would they make such large cofin’s and why not use pine it would be cheaper.
      There is something very bad about Fema.. so please peole study and share what ever you find. Why would others want to end and control the human race… there are nazi’s everywhere maybe it has to do with them,, I do not know but lets hurry this one out of the bag..google what you can and find friends that live close by for updates.. good luck.
      
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- Todd Scofield
  January 19, 2013 at 12:37 am
  
  I think his sources are pretty apparent at the end of each statement with all the agency names, reports and people named, all an intelligent individual needs to do is use that information and search for your own links to sources. Or do you need something carved in stone to believe the duplicitousness of the people implicated by these facts?
  
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  - crustysurfer (@crustysurfer)
    April 3, 2013 at 12:48 pm
    
    your advice requires critical thinking.. doing the research by and for oneself using the information provided. for ‘truthers’, such pragmatism and logical inquiry is innate and obvious, however, to a ‘mainstream media’ adherent this is outside the box, scary and questionable. better to be spoon fed palatable pulp by a familiar mother than to forage for sustenance of dubious provenance if you don’t have the discrimination between the nutritious and the toxic. the evidence is obvious to those that see it but a mirage to those that fear the fact that all their long held beliefs are worthless.
    
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- FRANK
  January 19, 2013 at 11:56 am
  
  I guess you don’t know how to google those keywords he put in their? Your inability to do your own research discredits nothing.
  
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  - johnsie@nospam.com
    January 19, 2013 at 1:10 pm
    
    Lol, you guys are nuts. When you google any those keywords you just get a tonne more conspiracy theory sites and sometimes a mainstream article that is very vaguely related. The conspiracy theorists then twist that article to the max just to suit their agenda. Believe it or not there is big money to be made from Conspiracy theories if you know how to do it right. Lots of people eg. Alex Jones are making a good living out of selling this BS and the advertisements on their sites and radio stations.
    
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    - xonomide
      January 19, 2013 at 2:37 pm
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaeHBCdBqBA&feature=player_embedded
      
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    - xonomide
      January 19, 2013 at 2:46 pm
      
      I honestly don’t expect you to even watch that, I just put it there because a few of the points mentioned in this article are gathered from there. It is only too apparent that your own perspective of things is already set in stone, and you’re only here to make conflict with people who are providing information that they think is more legitimate than what you may hear from authorities. I bid you a good day, and I will remain hopeful that you perhaps open your mind to things that you don’t already believe. And for the record, Alex Jones is a fear mongering douche, acting as nothing but a figurehead to parade around and give people like you something to point at and compare to when you see people like myself. If he was actually making any good difference like perhaps he thought he was, he’d have been taken out a long time ago.
      
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    - Todd Scofield
      January 19, 2013 at 3:48 pm
      
      So you can reject the more obscure facts of the case because you say they are too difficult to prove but please, just to humor me, explain away the hard facts of the case, the ones that are easily verified, like why did it take Bush over a year to empanel a commission to investigate 9/11 and why did that commission only receive 1/4 of what the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal investigative committee received. Or how do you discredit the report of 1,700 independent structural engineers who say what happened was a physical impossibility or why over 500 1st responders were barred from testifying to the commission about the secondary explosions they witnessed. Or how the BBC reporter reported prematurely that bldg 7 had collapsed. These facts are all on the books and easily verified so please expalin how some CTer made them up for his or her own benefit.
      
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      - johnsie@nospam.com
        January 19, 2013 at 8:52 pm
        
        The 1600 people say it should be investigated further, not that there was actually a some sort of false flag attack. There are hell of alot more than 1600 engineers in the world and there is no evidence as to how many of them are actually experts in investigating fire damage. Many other experts have said the the collapse was caused by a fire in the building. The people who carried out those studies were actually experts in that field. On the other hand my car mechanic could call himself an engineer and sign that petition.
        
        Why did Bush take a year? Because it takes time to do anything in US politics. Also because there was alot of people on the ground investigating a crime.
        
        Why so little spending on the investigation? The job was done just fine with the allocated budget. Maybe you didn’t like the outcome of the investigation, but the conclusions were made and most people apart from conspiracy theorists were happy with the outcome.
        
        How did the BBC report something before it happened? They were sending the data via a live video feed by satellite to the UK. Audio required less bandwidth for transmission than video. There may have been a degree of lag due to the fact that so many live transmissions were going on at the same time.
        
        You ask alot of questions, but quite alot of your questions can have perfectly rational explanations. May you just want to believe something and want the answers to be some conspiracy, but it’s just as likely that the answers to your questions are perfectly legit and not the theory that you want.
    - troymichaels144
      February 7, 2013 at 5:15 pm
      
      You are a fool, Johnsie. No11body (outside of war-profiteering contractors) made more money off of the 9/11 attacks than Larry Silverstein who walked away with $7 BILLION. Wake the fuck up or SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
      
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      - quinazagga
        February 9, 2013 at 11:20 am
        
        Actually the only fools here are those whom choose to be the useful idiots in the social entrepreneurship hoax called the big lie. This whole creation of unsubstantiated internet rumor that is backed only by opinion and academic frauds. The people that sell opinion as fact with out physical evidence are just theologians and philosophers using the big lie of the National Libertarian Socialist party. They fund these 811truth groups and organize labor unions and big lie campaigns such as occupy to get socialist elected Obama was their candidate so they started the I hate George W Bush regime big lie it was effective to place every socialist labor group organizer in a position of power.
      - Jared
        February 11, 2013 at 12:11 pm
        
        look at all these people.. it amazes me how people think theyre “awake”, just because they “know what to think.” This guy is doing what we like to call “critical reading” you know..the same thing that were supposed to do with EVERYTHING we read, whether its a government message, or a civilian one. dont be hypocrites, the guy has reasonable answers to questions, dont condemn him because he doesnt have all the answers. bloggers do just what he said they do, they sensationalize. doesnt matter what side theyre on
      - Ruby Browning Vice
        March 31, 2013 at 11:11 pm
        
        You need to learn proper ENGLISH. The F word is no way to communicate. Shame on you. It is so unnecessary and redneck !
      - albury
        May 11, 2013 at 10:24 am
        
        How do owner/lessees make money when they lose all cash flow for a decade+ and are contractually obligated to rebuild at a cost that’s more than twice what the insurance paid? Since the total settlement was ~$4.68 billion, he hardly “walked away with $7 BILLION,” now did he? Any thoughts on why at least 12 different insurance companies, some of which are foreign-based, all paid him that $4.68 billion if there was any legitimate question about the causes of the WTC collapses? Did they make money on 9/11 too?
    - Steven
      March 28, 2013 at 2:25 pm
      
      lol 1700 structural engineers declared this a physical impossibility… but I’m sure you just know so much more about structural engineering than they do… Pls, by all means, start debunking these. Go on, exercise that genius of yours, that superior intellect, and debunk us. What’s that? You can’t? All you can do is mutter like a mongrel and dismiss without investigation? Thought so.
      
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      - Steve Jones
        March 28, 2013 at 7:37 pm
        
        Well I’ve been a welder for 24 years & I know that airliners run on “Paraffin” or “Kerosene” to you “Americans” & I also know that a fire fuelled by kerosene would not melt steel that is capable of holding thousands of tons of concrete……..
    - Ebymby
      April 8, 2013 at 3:49 pm
      
      I agree with Johnsie. The laws of physics didn’t work on 9/11. Thanks!
      
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    - Think!
      April 15, 2013 at 4:58 pm
      
      Your an idiot, if you believe your gov’t, you’re a dumb idiot who has his head in the sand and will listen to what his master has to say.
      
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    - Lynette
      April 15, 2013 at 8:14 pm
      
      @Johnsie@nospam.com…. ” Lots of people eg. Alex Jones are making a good living out of selling this BS and the advertisements on their sites and radio stations” .So are the mainstream media mouthpieces!!! Now what’s your point??????????????????????????
      
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    - Eadie Sharp
      May 13, 2013 at 11:43 pm
      
      Kudos johnsie! Everyone forgets that commercial recently aired with that woman that believed everything was true because she saw it on the internet!
      
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- Helio S Reis
  January 30, 2013 at 10:17 pm
  
  Have you missed “2) 1700+ Engineers and Architects support a real independent 9/11 investigation. Richard Gage, Founder. ‘Explosive Evidence’, ‘Blueprint for Truth’, ‘AE911′, ‘Toronto Hearings’, ‘Kevin Ryan’.”? Just Google each of ‘Explosive Evidence’, ‘Blueprint for Truth’, ‘AE911′, ‘Toronto Hearings’, ‘Kevin Ryan’
  
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Jan Stowe
January 18, 2013 at 11:23 pm

To Phillip Marsh- I have read that the buildings were full of asbestos- therefore rehabbing them would have been cost prohibitive, but the owner had a 7B insurance policy on them that included terrorist attacks. It all STINKS and the first responders were put at great risk and are being denied care. I would love to see the manifest of the planes allowed to fly out to Saudi Arabia. I am sure the “alledged” amateur pilots were on those planes laughing their a– off over the dupe. I just re-watched Farenheit 911. Michael Moore was so right on.

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James
January 19, 2013 at 12:31 am

If the sources were posted this would be an article I would email to everyone…

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- Donna Hopkins
  January 19, 2013 at 12:41 am
  
  @ James, watch the video, sources are listed at the bottom!
  
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- Todd Scofield
  January 19, 2013 at 12:43 am
  
  the sources are right there at the end of each statement, all the agencies, reports and people named isn’t enough for you to take and do your own fact checking with? Or you want it easy? Something carved in stone to verify the duplicitousness of the people implicated by these facts.
  
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- Donna Hopkins
  January 19, 2013 at 12:45 am
  
  What I want to know is, where is the gold they removed before the attacks? Rudy Giuliani stated, “we found the gold” but it was only one safe of gold, who has the rest of it?
  
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Baubau
January 19, 2013 at 1:53 am

While I do not believe the attacks were anything as media portrayed some of these facts presented here are not truly accurate. One in particular I noticed is “$2.3 TRILLION missing from the Pentagon” which was not money actually missing but difficult to track due to poor accounting and outdated systems, see: http://www.defense.gov/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=430

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Jamie Cooper
January 19, 2013 at 3:00 am

Dr Judy Wood – “Where Did the Towers Go?”

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pen nomad
January 19, 2013 at 3:00 am

Amazing how many Fools believe the government sponsored Lies ……… But I suppose that’s what happens when you live in a Brainwashed America :-
pen_nomad

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- johnsie@nospam.com
  January 19, 2013 at 1:28 pm
  
  If you really believe the government is capable of pulling off a conspiracy on this scale without getting caught then you must have never worked in a government institution. Most government workers are desk jockeys at best with basic admin skills.Most government institutions are badly organized.
  
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  - Todd Scofield
    January 19, 2013 at 3:59 pm
    
    You said it yourself right there, most government workers are desk jockeys with only basic admin skills and most government institutions are poorly organized. So, by your own statement here, most gov’t. workers are merely sheeple, but that is only “most”. What about the ones who are not, the ones who have the most at stake if the senate gets ahold of the Ernst&Young accounting documents for Enron that were kept in WTC bldg#7 and had just been subpeonaed to the senate investigative committee right before the attacks on the WTC occurred, not to mention all the other banks’ financial documents that would have implicated them in what we now call the LIBOR scandal which was going on even back then? So what about the highly intelligent individuals standing at the top of the government, or in the shadows of the government? You saying they would be incapable of pulling this off. It doesn’t take an army of people to arrange a coordinated attack on a large scale. Just ask General Giap how he managed to organize the Tet offensive without even letting his own government know what he was doing.
    
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    - johnsie@nospam.com
      January 19, 2013 at 8:27 pm
      
      They couldn’t even pull Watergate off without getting caught. There is such a thing as whistleblowers, and if you talk about killing planes and buildings full of people then of course someone would blow the whistle. I think you’re grossly overestimating the capabilities of a big, clunky government.
      
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      - I LUV GOD
        January 22, 2013 at 12:33 am
        
        @johnsie@nospam.com
        first you say google only brings up more conspiracy theories, then you say use google to see most of these claims have been debunked. If thats right, then using google will only bring up more lies and idiots like yourself about the debunking. You contradict yourself the same way the gov’t lies about 9/11. The gov’t has the media behind them, media is controlled by the gov’t. These so called terrorist attacks are nothing more then big fat lies to benefit those of war. In other words, usa goes to war, there are people that will get filthy rich from the war.
        you sound like you work for the gov’t. cause your trying to change everyones mind and get them to believe your way, which is, the gov’t had nothing to do with it. Ok, your gov’t is freakin perfect they had nothing to do with. Thats why they are tryin to bring in the nwo, cause your gov’t wants control of the world, total control. I can tell you now, that Australia is under the thumb of usa, if we didnt do what your poofy gov’t wanted, we wouldnt be here. Why do you think they went to iraq? was it for wmd’s? i bet your answer will be yes it was!. But, funny thing is, they killed saddam, never found wmd’s.hmmm, interesting. so why kill saddam then if he didnt have wmd’s? i’ll tell you why, the only answer i have found so far on the net, is because firstly, they sent in a jackal, to negotiate a deal where saddam hands over his riches, he declined, so then they sent in a assassin, he failed to assassinate saddam because he had bodyguards all the time, so then they sent the military in to finish the job. Point being in all this, its americas way, or no way at all. Japan, the big earthquake and tsunmai, apparently it was done with a nuke drilled into the ocean floor, again, america wanted japans money, at first japan declined, so, usa blew the nuke, caused the earthquake, and asked again, but said this time if you decline, it will be a nuke in mt fuji, near tokyo. They assassinated a prime minister in one of the countrys along the nile i think it was cause he declined. You think your gov’t is incompetent? you need to wake the fuck and use google and youtube. There are whistleblowers, and this is how i know all the above, because the whilsteblower is a retired jackal and is on youtube. If you wanna stay in your perfect world where your gov’t never lies and always speaks the truth, and want to be a troll to everyone else here that knows the facts,and is AWAKE, then fuck off, go stick your head back in the sand or up your ass where ever you sleep, cause you will wake oneday just like the other sheeple who obey and make out their gov’t is for the good of mankind, to see total devastation across the globe and say” what the fuck happened” Your gov’t. is trying to start ww3. the way things are going, we’re goin to be lucky to make it to 2020. My estimate, is around 2015 to 2017.
        But then, idiots like you will still be saying, naaaa, our govt wouldnt do that, they are not capable of it, they are sheeple and have basic admin skills. Really? i think not. They have sources to use, some we have never heard of. cia fbi are just 2 everyone knows about, what about the ones we dont know about? they are more then capable, dont underestimate them, cause thats what they are doing with us, thinking everyone will just believe them, well, they fucked up, cause not everyone believes them and they have underestimated us!!!
        now piss off with your propaganda bs and lies, or wake up to yourself!
      - jim hay
        February 11, 2013 at 5:44 am
        
        Somebody DID blow the whistle.That’s what this is all about.Port Chicago and the USs Liberty point to the fact that the US gov. isn’t above ‘dirty business’.
  - jim m
    January 22, 2013 at 2:14 pm
    
    If you haven’t noticed, they did get get caught. Thats why we’re here.
    
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  - Lynn
    February 23, 2013 at 10:34 pm
    
    Johnsie, if a few years after Pearl Harbor someone had said that the U.S. government had known that the attack was going to happen and allowed it to in order to have an excuse to get into the war, that person would have been crucified. After 50 years, when documents were declassified, it was proven that that, indeed was the case. Mark my words: I don´t know if you´ll be alive several decades from now, but the same thing will happen with 9/11.
    
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  - jstpaolo
    March 28, 2013 at 6:05 pm
    
    You think the job was done just fine with $15 Million? You are a goose. This is the biggest crime perpetrated on American soil and the “investigation” didn’t even start for over a year. Bin Ladin was blamed yet the “investigation” had no proof. Bush and Cheney testified together for the commission behind closed doors not under oath with no notes taken of their conversation, you think that’s OK?. The steel was shipped to the four corners of the globe in record time without it being tested so as to understand why the buildings came down. 100′s of witnesses and first responders were banned from testifying and those that did, like Barry Jennings and Rodriguez were not mentioned in the report. And no! your car mechanic cannot call himself a Engineer or Architect you silly little boy. I think your mamma is calling so I will stop here.
    
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megaira555
January 19, 2013 at 5:04 am

Dr Judy Wood – “Where Did the Towers Go?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVNWlt-zVaY&list=PLE13635DC03865642&index=23

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Debb Williams
January 19, 2013 at 10:38 am

If I had not been aware of the “loose change” views of 9/11 This article would not make a bit of sense to me! You have more 1 word sentences in here than I care to count. I’m thinking that those who would first, take the time to read it would give up. It’s a bunch of goobagleeglop. Try again! and this time pretend you have never spent a lick of time researching 9/11. What the heck has happened to writing something regular uninformed people could understand?

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Cher
January 19, 2013 at 11:02 am

What Phillip mentioned is definitely an important part of the story, that insurance was taken out on the buildings not long before these attacks happened. Not a coincidence.

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- Granny Kelly
  April 4, 2013 at 10:15 am
  
  Ok that’s true.but we are all aware that there was chatter about terrorist with possible plans to run planes into buildings for some time prior to this happening.The wtc was a prime target and had already been hit once .It would stand to reason that keeping its security force on top and informed would include knowledge of this fact…. wouldn’t you take out insurance?
  
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Javier
January 19, 2013 at 1:09 pm

Para documentarse bien solo hay que visionar el documental ZEITGEIST…en el veremos con imágenes y entrevistas que todo fué una maniobra creada por el propio Gobierno de los EEUU.

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sergeyrusak
January 19, 2013 at 3:58 pm

Lunatics, get a life.

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Jared Brody
January 19, 2013 at 7:00 pm

all the conspiracy nuts really worked hard on this. I’m surprised we don’t see the Illuminati or the Freemasons are listed in there somewhere.

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- Joe Martino
  January 19, 2013 at 7:18 pm
  
  I think it’s important we keep emotions and judgment aside and we observe critically. By making the statement above it does not help to address what was written but instead sets it aside because of what media has suggested about people who question anything. Hence the conspiracy slurs. Let’s try and actually look at each of these crucially and see if we can in fact debunk them or prove them to be incorrect. That would be a great start I feel.
  
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  - johnsie@nospam.com
    January 19, 2013 at 8:29 pm
    
    Every claim in this article has already been debunked. Do some Googling.
    
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  - Dan F
    January 21, 2013 at 10:38 am
    
    http://www.debunking911.com/
    
    Every single point here about the 911 “conspiracy” is debunked, usually with a plethora of sources and first hand accounts. You are welcome (Not that anyone needs this sight if they have common sense). The testimonies about wtc7 are enough to show how either 1. blind you are for believing this or 2. are purposely lying to make money, which makes you the biggest jerk in the universe. I hope you are just blinded.
    
    Also, I love how you don’t show the videos of wtc7 with huge gaping holes with fire and smoke flying out, but instead just show the side of the building without any damage. It is pretty pathetic…
    
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    - SquiggleySpooch
      May 14, 2013 at 12:54 am
      
      No building has ever collapsed, especially at free fall like a demolition because of fire. You are pathetic for being so afraid to open your eye to the evil that controls our world.
      
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      - albury
        May 15, 2013 at 8:17 am
        
        PLENTY of steel-framed buildings have collapsed solely from fire:
        https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/firesafetyengineering%26theperformanceofst
        WTC 7 is the first HI-RISE to do it, and NCSTAR 1A fully explains why it did. The biggest problems were asymmetry in the col. 79 area, exceptionally long interior spans, simple gravity connections to interior columns, and lack of water pressure to sprinklers and fire hoses because the main was severed in the North Tower collapse.
  - Dan F
    January 21, 2013 at 10:40 am
    
    http://www.debunking911.com/
    
    You talk about sources, well they have more. Alot more. They they are not speculative sources based on half-facts and assumptions, like all of yours. You are welcome internet.
    
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    - Hub
      January 24, 2013 at 5:57 pm
      
      I’ve read the debunking site you link to. It’s sources are certainly no more credible than the Architects and Engineers who have formed ae for 9/11 truth. In fact, less so. And you have to ask, why on earth would literally 1000s of qualified architects and engineers bother to put their reputations at risk unless they thought there was something seriously amiss with the story as it has been presented?
      
      There are far more questions than answers in regard to 9/11 – and the inconsistencies in the ‘official’ story demand that any sane person would question it.
      
      There are also many inconsistencies and logical fallacies that are not mentioned here. The trail of ‘evidence’ left by the alleged hijackers being one of many that absolutely stinks. I like this simple expose of the plethora of inconsistencies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDfxB9nUfDc
      
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  - albury
    May 11, 2013 at 1:25 pm
    
    That’s very hard to do when my polite, on-topic, and factual comments are removed from your “forum,” Joe. It appears that at least 5 of them have simply vanished.
    
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  - albury
    May 11, 2013 at 4:09 pm
    
    Why do my comments here keep disappearing, Joe? Do actual facts distress you that much? Your “facts that cannot be debunked” are all very easily debunked, but permitting honest dialog is necessary for doing it.
    
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    - Joe Martino
      May 11, 2013 at 4:13 pm
      
      Repeat: We don’t sit beside the computer waiting for every single comment to come through so it can be approved, have some patients. Not a single one of your comments was removed.
      
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      - albury
        May 12, 2013 at 7:58 am
        
        Uh, that would be “patience,” not “patients,” Joe, but thanks for posting my comments. All of your “facts” have been very thoroughly debunked; you apparently limited your research to 9/11 troofer web sites.
        Please note: The PAPD ran security at the WTC; Securacom/Stratesec only furnished and installed electronic surveillance equipment under PANYNJ contracts that started after the 1993 North Tower bombing by the same folks who sent suicide hijackers in 2001. Since they apparently weren’t very good at it, their share of the business there had been declining for several years.
        GeeDubya’s younger brother Marvin was on the board of directors, but left his position ~15 months before 9/11. Board members don’t run day-to-day operations, and there’s no known connection between the Bush family and Wirt Walker. No one running security at the WTC or the airports where the hijacked flights originated would have prevented the attacks or the subsequent fire-induced building collapses. The AQ hijackers flew frequently, and looked just like anyone else. One in each crew had an FAA commercial pilot certificate earned from training in Boeing cockpit simulators, and since they weren’t professional pilots, that’s a rather strange hobby, innit?
      - Alex
        May 13, 2013 at 10:42 pm
        
        How was the USS Liberty a false flag? Israel admitted guilt right away and the attack did not instigate any retribution. The OKC and WTC bombings were not false flag attacks either. It is quite a leap to go from Northwoods, a report supposedly put out by the government in the 60′s talking about small scale false flag attacks, to the US using planes to strike US cities and causing thousands of deaths. With some of the news reports, like OBL reported dead in Dec. 01, some of the hijackers reported alive, and WTC reported down 20 minutes early; isn’t it more likely that the reporters were wrong? In regards to Flight 93, you say Cheney shot it down, then later say there was no plane. Which was it?
        You forgot about the pentagon. The plane supposedly flew over the pentagon, did a 180, then struck the west wall. The thing is, the pentagon was going through a renovation and the small section that the plane struck was the only section that had been renovated. There was nothing of great importance stored in that section, it was the best protected if a fire or bomb were to occur, most of the staff was relocated to other sections of the pentagon, and most of the critical functions of the pentagon were run from the section that the plane was on track for before it flew over and turned around.
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Sharon Dawson
January 20, 2013 at 8:19 am

During Nixon’s tenure wasn’t Cheney / Rumsfeld with him and didn’t they propose flying a plane into a NY skyscraper and blame it on the Russians?

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GroundedintheRealWorld
January 20, 2013 at 3:25 pm

There never were any so called “Twin Towers”. They were a holographic projection created by The Illuminati an the Free Masons to hide the Alien Mothership. 9/11 was simply the launch to return the ship home. EVERYONE in New York knows this, and they were all paid off by the Jews and the Commies! There, did that cover all the crazy for you? Because that was just as true and legitimate as any of the totally fabricated “facts” from this article. As someone who witnessed some of the Pentagon attack, first hand, I say screw you! Take your crazy and blow it out your ass. Don’t be sheep, do some actual real world research that does not include conspiracy pages, and we can talk. Ass.

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- Peter Grant
  March 28, 2013 at 12:17 pm
  
  “Witnessed some of the Pentagon attack” ? So is it true the plane vaporized into that little hole in the side of the building? (Just like flight 93 vaporized in a field on impact?) Your real world info comes from the Government and the media? Who’s the sheep here?
  
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Krys Stromsted
January 20, 2013 at 3:27 pm

Unfortunately, those who still buy ‘the official story’ will probably continue to do so. It’s far easier to believe what the government and media has said is true than it is to question it and the implications that come with that. For those who’s minds aren’t closed like a steel vault, here’s a site that has many questions that continue to go unanswered with any legitimate results. http://www.ae911truth.org/evidence.html

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vsgopalakrishnan
January 20, 2013 at 4:30 pm

Where is the doubt that it is basically an insiders’ job (insider=elite in the establishment), with Silverstein’s consent. Shame on you America for not punishing the insiders..

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FedUp
January 20, 2013 at 7:23 pm

Not to mention that the guy who owned the WTC’s bought them for MILLIONS and the insurance he bought paid out around 7 BILLION

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Ken Doc
January 20, 2013 at 10:39 pm

I am the person who created this list. I’ve noticed a few posters have asked for sources and I have them easily available. The purpose of this list is for people to search these facts on their own and not to be directed. But here you go: Sources are all listed in the comments section.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/ken-doc/the-hard-facts-about-911/191946517507688

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- Dan F
  January 21, 2013 at 10:41 am
  
  http://www.debunking911.com/
  
  You talk about sources, well they have more. Alot more. They they are not speculative sources based on half-facts and assumptions, like all of yours. You are welcome internet.
  
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Ken Doc
January 20, 2013 at 10:41 pm

Thank you Joe Martino for sharing this list.

Ken Doc

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ArmyMom
January 21, 2013 at 10:49 pm

Funny how one thing someone finds on the internet can completely disprove another thing someone else finds on the internet. Same principle applies to eye-witness testimony; someone remind me whether or not it’s considered reliable? – and why? The ONLY medium of Fact is Science, and even science can be shaky when applied to human error (either witting or unwitting). Not all people who find doubt in ‘official reports’ are conspiracy loons. Not all that accept the ‘official reports’ are brainwashed sheeple. Never trust someone that claims to have The Answer. Always align yourself to its constant pursuit. Question Everything. Keep your mind open.

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Mo D
January 22, 2013 at 2:42 pm

At the risk of starting a shitstorm, would you mind clearly stating what you do believe actually happened. Most conspiracy theory sites list suspect items to question but don’t link them together with their proposed theory. Who do you feel was actually behind this, specifically please? And would you mind giving your full assesment of what you think actually happened and why. You have obviously spent a lot of time and effort on this, so I would be curious to read your entire theory. Thank you

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- Joe Martino
  January 22, 2013 at 4:35 pm
  
  Hey Mo,
  I am not the original writer of this list, I am just sharing it for another. But I do feel after my years of research into this event that I have come to various understandings. While I cant say any of it for certain, what I can say for certain is that the official story is false. That is a fact and evidence shows this. That being the case, what is written above are all facts as well which need to be taken into consideration when looking at the whole event. After my research, my feeling is that this event was orchestrated in agreement by the US gov’t and other entities involved. I think there are various factors that show the government is 100% hiding things about this and I feel most who look at it with an open mind can see very quickly that the official story is not factual.
  
  I think another key factor is the idea of “conspiracy theories.” This really isn’t directed at you but more so just something we all need to think about. We must realize that this is a term used to help deter people from thinking critically. Every time the term conspiracy theory is used it comes with a negative connotation. one that suggests the person looking into them is crazy or not intelligent etc. It is very much a way for government and media to label critical thinkers (who are a threat) as something that is undesirable and crazy. Let’s say I said to you while at a grocery story, that lemons were 7 times as good for you as oranges. This may not sit well with you in your thinking so you decide to go home and do a little research. You did and you found out that I was wrong. Would you then be a crazy conspiracy theorist? No, you simply started to look into something that at face value did not make sense to you. The truth is, this is what most people have done when it comes to 9/11. They hear it, see it, realize that the official story is at best a 2/10 in terms of something that has any legitimacy and then they began doing research. “Conspiracy theorists” as they are called, generally have nothing to gain from thinking critically other than trying to get closer to the truth. The government or corporations running these types of events on the other hand, have a great deal to gain from telling their lies. This is another very big factor to look into.
  
  I don’t have a full theory of a front to back orchestration. But I do know that there are a number of signs pointing to explosives, no passenger planes and a lot of fake events.
  Hope this answered things a little further. I am in no way an expert of every single detail about 9/11 but I have spent years looking over various bits of information as they come.
  
  Peace
  Joe
  
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  - Fredrik
    March 29, 2013 at 5:13 am
    
    There’s an official story available for all this that some of us choose to believe because it makes some kind of sense and fits with our current world-view. This happens not only with 9/11, but in many areas. But, there are big elephants in a lot of rooms. Some of them implicate things about our civilization that many of us can’t stomach. The biggest fallacy, I think, is that we sometimes believe there are conspiracies to be investigated and bad people that could be removed and then the current world could transform into a beautiful place where we all could live in harmony. I wish it was that “simple”.
    
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  - Steve Jones
    March 30, 2013 at 6:08 am
    
    Well said Joe, I dislike the way we’re all labeled as “conspiracy freaks” when all we do is see something we believe to be questionable, the most glaringly obvious one in relation to this event is the “Plane” that supposedly hit the Pentagon, one would have to be a monumental retard to believe that was a plane……
    
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Marko Rbin
January 23, 2013 at 1:18 am

you lost me with the israeli mossad agents, i’m sorry but i know one of them, and from what i understand they were a bunch of stoners not agents, getting high between moving jobs. I used to smoke with one of them on a regular basis and believe me the mossad would throw any drug user. True they were excited but wouldn’t you be if you saw something like that and not in your own country so you have no attached feelings to it. These 5 boys were may be stupid but part of the plot? hehe i think you lost your marbles.

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Lawrence Roper
January 23, 2013 at 2:37 pm

I recently read an article by whistle blower who said he was a paid for internet ‘shill’ his job was to attempt to discredit any information or discussion that deviated from ‘the party line’ I think we have seen just such a person here today. Someone only interested in discrediting information, without having a shred of information to discredit it with. Someone who has not done any research on the subject at hand so avoids any direct discussion and in this case tries to suggest the Government are too incompetent to achieve it.

Debunk facts (like the collapse WTC7) with facts, not your personal opinion of the ability of government..

Best hope your bosses don’t discover you have been rumbled or it’s back to food stamps for you.

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neil bentley
January 24, 2013 at 1:16 pm

Did anyone mention the Universities seismic records of the explosions,just before the buildings came down?

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neil bentley
January 24, 2013 at 1:18 pm

Or G Bush,s brother owned a security company that had been working on the lift shafts of the twin towers for 6mths previous to 9/11,giving him access to the core steels of the buildings.

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neil bentley
January 24, 2013 at 1:24 pm

Or the NASA satallite phots of the 9/11 site just after the building came down,showing lakes of molten steel UNDER the building,measuring 6000 degrees,how did that come about from a few bits of wood and paper burning at 700 degrees at the TOP of the building?

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BK
January 24, 2013 at 1:32 pm

USA is a DEMON.

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- JustMe
  February 23, 2013 at 3:17 pm
  
  The statement “USA is a demon” does not take into account the many people here who do not like our own government and are fighting to change it for the better. There are “demons” within our government and country, but, like ALL countries, there are vast amounts of GOOD people wanting to stop the insanity.
  
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Maxwell Miller
January 24, 2013 at 3:29 pm

This is ridiculous. If you have any common sense and have done at least a little bit of research, you would realize that there is definitely something fishy going on here. I don’t know what really happened on 9/11, but I can guarantee that you don’t either. So, don’t act like you do. “Any man who knows a thing knows he knows not a damn thing at all” This all could be settled very easily if journalist did their job and asked these questions to government officials, but these questions wouldn’t be answered anyways.. hmmmm.. i wonder why? fishy huh?

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flyingdoctor
January 25, 2013 at 10:28 am

OK, you don’t need to have a hidden agenda or search the internet (which if you look hard enough can “prove/disprove” anything). There’s no point airing my personal opinion because you’ll ever agree or disagree, so what you have to ask yourself is: WHO BENEFITED MOST FROM 9/11 ATTACKS? Bingo! there’s your answers…

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John
January 25, 2013 at 11:51 pm

The next step:

Congressional Research Service, two-part paper on the Article V Convention:

Part 1: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42589.pdf

Part 2: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R42592.pdf

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Pearson
January 26, 2013 at 1:11 am

A commercial jet liner, laden with passengers, piloted by an inexperienced amateur, makes a perfect hit on the Pentagon at ground level (like landing on a postage stamp) and the ENTRE aircraft vanishes into thin air after punching a round hole right through the building….neat.
No corpses, no luggage, no seats, no wings, no fuselage, no engines, no landing gear.
Or was it a missile?

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- Pearson
  January 26, 2013 at 1:15 am
  
  Likewise the plane that supposedly went down in Shanksville Penn.
  No corpses, no luggage, no seats, no wings, no fuselage, no engines, no landing gear.
  
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smspirate
January 26, 2013 at 9:24 am

You’re kidding, right? This stuff has so been disproved and disavowed and discarded! What’s the point in posting this? Do we miss the election whack-jobs so much we now have to go resurrecting conspiracy theories about 911, just to get a rise out of them again? Gheesh! Thanks for digging them out of the woodwork again.

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- Steven
  March 28, 2013 at 2:43 pm
  
  Not one thing on this list has been debunked, not 1 single thing. The fact you claim otherwise shows just how ignorant you are about the entire issue. You just made a bold-faced lie.
  
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Drew
January 28, 2013 at 4:39 pm

None of this has been disproved, disavowed and the search for truth should never be discarded. See you on the other side dude. I feel sorry for the brainwashed sheep that will be on the wrong side of history very soon.

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Parimal Patil
January 29, 2013 at 1:54 pm

Comeon America….how far will u go to fool the entire world……..everyone knows wats the reality

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LaFeria.
February 5, 2013 at 1:56 am

Whatever the stoopid trolls and sheeple may believe ~ I WAS THERE ~ and I knew the super for the North Tower was was very badly burned ~ he saved THOUSANDS of lives by unlocking the basement doors. When he testified he heard “explosion” and the facts that his burns could ONLY have been caused by explosions ~ he was silenced and has now vanished ~ ps GWB did award him a medal for bravery before he said that he heard and saw explosions.
On a side note ~ Mimoru Yamasaki designed the WTC site with inspiration from the Grand Mosque in Mecca…….The Golden Ball designed by Fritz Koenig and made in Bremen was put in the Austin Tobin Plaza according to scale exactly where the Ka’aba would have stood. The ball was made to turn every 24 hours to copy the pilgrims that do the same in Mecca. The architect was known to have coined the WTC as calling ( the Towers as Giant Minarets) the World to Peace thru commerce.HA!
OBL ~ was also known as aka Tim Osman and was a CIA asset ~ pictures of him with Z-big exist and are easily found. Kurt Knoningsgurt (?) the FEMA photog now lives in exile in Argentina and contends the TOWERS were “brought down”.
9/11 will always remain the greatest day of INFAMY much like the burning of the Reichstag that ushered in the 3rd Reich….what did this ritual killing usher in ? OPEN your eyes and see the devastation wrought around the Globe ~ ancient cities ruined, living museums extinguished ~ millions of Women & children KILLED, Depleted Uranium used ~ it is no wonder US armed forces have the HIGHEST rate of suicide as these soldiers cannot live with the complicit guilt.
The people are complicit in these crimes against Humanity by their silence ~ like the Germans of Nazi Germany on discovering the Holocaust under their noses ~ it is almost impossible to free these “stockholm hostages” of terror. THEY KNOW in their deepest hearts that the “official” story is a VAST fabrication…….and now with 47trillions squandered into thin air, poisoned Gulf, Fukushima and a destroyed ecology….the proverbial Chickens have come home to roost……Karma is a BITCH.

ps Truly if the ‘official’ story was true EVERY ABLE MAN WOMEN & CHILD would have stood-up and DRAFTED themselves into battle rather than huddled watching Superbowl whatever ….it just goes to show….problem~reaction~solution……welcome to the Satanic NWO and their illuminati wanna~be accomplices.

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gmanbmanshow
February 5, 2013 at 6:17 pm

This article is absolutely ridiculous!!!!! UNTRUE in every facet!!!

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- Joe Martino
  February 5, 2013 at 10:17 pm
  
  As always with out work, we are open to every side of a story and always welcome information that can go towards bringing the truth forward. If you have any evidence of these being untrue, please feel free to share it below.
  
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  - albury
    May 11, 2013 at 4:12 pm
    
    I felt free to do that, but you keep removing my comments, Joe.
    
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    - Joe Martino
      May 11, 2013 at 4:13 pm
      
      We don’t sit beside the computer waiting for every single comment to come through so it can be approved, have some patients. Not a single one of your comments was removed.
      
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- Steven
  March 28, 2013 at 2:46 pm
  
  Prove us wrong then. It’s been nearly 12 years and nobody has proven us wrong yet. Our only obstacle at this point are people like you who demonstrate the height of ignorance, dismissal without investigation.
  
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  - Steve Jones
    March 30, 2013 at 6:20 am
    
    It’s also worth pointing out that since 911 there has been nearly 12yrs of WAR……
    
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Lloyd Rice
February 7, 2013 at 10:02 am

No black soot in the lobby, why?

The buildings are undamaged below the point of impact, meaning they are 100% structurally sound, below this point.

3 sides of the buildings are 100% undamaged.

Each floor had 30″ steel trusses supporting the 4″ inch concrete slab, the truss would act as a crumple zone if the building did collapse. Thus slowing down the transfer of energy.

Bone fragments on the roof of Deutsche Bank Building, how did they get there?

10 floors disappearing every second, 1 floor every .1 of a second failing, how?

The top of the building turned to instant dust, how and why?

Why did Rudi G do a runner at lunch time saying that wtc was going to come down?

Why is there 12 storey sections of the external frame still standing, when it was supporting the 97 floors above?

How does 30 floors destroy 80 floors?

How does a gravity driven collapse cover the 1/4 mile quicker than my Suzuki 1300R?

Buildings are over engineered by 300-400% and more.

One aspect of engineering that is not widely understood is that structures are over-engineered as a matter of standard practice. 7 Steel structures like bridges and buildings are typically designed to withstand five times anticipated static loads and 3 times anticipated dynamic loads. The anticipated loads are the largest ones expected during the life of the structure, like the worst hurricane or earthquake occurring while the floors are packed with standing-room-only crowds. Given that September 11th was not a windy day, and that there were not throngs of people in the upper floors, the critical load ratio was probably well over 10, meaning that more than nine-tenths of the columns at the same level would have to fail before the weight of the top could have overcome the support capacity of the remaining columns.

There is evidence that the Twin Towers were designed with an even greater measure of reserve strength than typical large buildings. According to the 1964 white paper cited above, a Tower would still be able to withstand a 100-mile-per-hour wind after all the perimeter columns on one face and some of the columns on each adjacent face had been cut. 8 Also, John Skilling is cited by the Engineering News Record for the claim that “live loads on these [perimeter] columns can be increased more than 2000% before failure occurs.”

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- saeed
  March 29, 2013 at 7:09 am
  
  You are right, the official story just does not stand up, i.e we are led to believe that the planes that hit the twin towers created enough damage to the huge concrete pillars supporting each floor to cause the upper floor to collapse, yet in the pentagon we are told the plane was crushed on impact as it hit concrete creating a small hole in regards to the size of the plane, so should we take from this that the planes that hit new york were concrete shearing planes and built to a much stronger build?
  
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Lloyd Rice
February 7, 2013 at 10:04 am

The impacts damaged less than 15 percent of the perimeter columns in either tower. The South Tower’s core columns apparently escaped significant damage.

People in the towers at the time of the impacts reported sways of several feet, but the deflection was not large enough to be noticeable in any of the video footage. The sways were less than the towers experienced in winter storms.
The North Tower impact destroyed from 31 to 36 of the 240 perimeter columns (according to FEMA) and an unknown number of core columns.
The South Tower impact destroyed about 23 of the 240 perimeter columns, and probably did not damage many of the core columns. The impact hole indicates that the fuselage entered on the right end of the middle third of the southwest wall, and videos show it exiting the east corner. That implies that the plane’s trajectory through the building caused the fuselage to almost entirely miss the core structure. The fact there was a passable stairwell in the core after the crash also suggests there was minimal structural damage.
Thus both towers lost less than an eighth of their perimeter columns, and the South Tower lost little of its core. Each of the impact holes were confined to five floors. The North Tower’s impact was so high — just 15 lightweight stories from the top — that no amount of structural damage to that portion of the core would threaten the whole building. The highly redundant connection of perimeter columns via the horizontal spandrell plates on every floor assured that gravity loads of the broken columns were easily transferred to other parts of the wall.

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- quinazagga
  February 9, 2013 at 10:03 am
  
  Lloyd Rice you failed to mention the FEMA report was a preliminary report on of many agencies including NYPD,NYFD, NIST, USGS, FBI, Local, state and federal disaster response. The problem is you quoted rather misquoted the facts. Building 7 was hit by wtc south debris so was wtc 6 and wtc 7 sustained enough damage to collapse across the street hitting the liberty building. It was in the same line of where the damage was received at the lower floors this means it fell toward south tower. shown in photos on 09 12 01 from vessy and Broadway. The fact is the paint found is Rust preventative primer The report could not link it to either of the WTC towers so here again misrepresentation of the facts is fabrication and makes your statements false.
  
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Lloyd Rice
February 7, 2013 at 10:06 am

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/official/columns.html

Thanks to the above link for some of content above.

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Lloyd Rice
February 7, 2013 at 10:16 am

Barry Jennings, google him.
Kenneth Johannemann, google him too.
http://listverse.com/2011/08/18/top-10-witnesses-who-died-suddenly/

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Lloyd Rice
February 7, 2013 at 10:24 am

http://911review.com/errors/wtc/spire.html

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Lloyd Rice
February 7, 2013 at 10:34 am

General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud! google it.

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Mata Hari
February 8, 2013 at 3:38 am

Generally speaking, conspiracy theorists have one pet theory, but I have to hand it to you guys, you do ‘em all. Try Risperdal, and maybe a course in logic, k?

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- Hub
  February 8, 2013 at 4:23 am
  
  I find it fascinating that those who are not open to the possibility that this event was indeed planned and carried out by State forces, have only insults and jibes for those that are. And furthermore, they offer no evidence to rebut the welter of inconsistencies in the official line.
  
  Someone, I forget who, called this refusal to be open to anything but a fixed idea ‘cognitive dissonance’. Indeed, a course in logic as the person above suggests, would at least lead you to conclude there is something strange going on here, since the official stories simply do not add up; nor does the huge amount of scientific and technical evidence that the 9/11 event could not have happened in the way it has been presented in the mainstream media.
  
  I understand that to have one’s world view challenged so profoundly is a scary thing, but if we never question, if we only dumbly accept the stories we are spoon-fed, then what are we? Robots.
  
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- Collective Evolution
  February 8, 2013 at 9:44 am
  
  Hey Mata,
  I don’t think in our day and age it is still appropriate to use the term conspiracy. When more than 1/3 of a country feels that 9/11′s official story is incorrect, you cannot simply call all these people conspiracy theorists and be done with it. The fact is, logic, science, and critical thinking was used to create all of these points and they have yet to be proven wrong. This means that 9/11′s official story is in fact incorrect. We have to stay open minded to be able to get past our previous beliefs.
  
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- Steven
  March 28, 2013 at 2:51 pm
  
  Maybe you should take a few courses in common physics. Gotta admire people like you who speak about logic, but don’t do a single thing to investigate anything. You just dismiss, dismiss, dismiss, with no investigation. Explain the logic in that.
  
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Solocamcan
February 8, 2013 at 12:14 pm

So when will you guys be completing the Sandy Hook conspiracy? Thought ought to be a good read. ( sarcasm )

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- Joe
  February 8, 2013 at 12:20 pm
  
  Many of these types of comments aren’t even geared towards trying to answer any questions, they simply divert attention from the issue. Do we feel this is productive at all?
  
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  - Jared
    February 11, 2013 at 12:14 pm
    
    good spot joe. but you know how we do, first we have to figure out who is completely right so we know who to worship
    
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- Steve Jones
  March 30, 2013 at 6:28 am
  
  And you sir, should learn to spell…..
  
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Gary Goodman
February 9, 2013 at 7:11 am

No one has “debunked” the point that at least SIX individuals/groups wanted a New Pearl Harbor, for years before 9/11. Not just PNAC. How does one “debunk” published statements and sworn testimony to the US Senate Armed Services Committee?

It can be explained away, but the media has not even attempted to do so, nor even mention it.

Five out of six cited “Pearl Harbor” as example of the type of event that would be NEEDED for overcoming popular and Congressional resistance to their broad plans and sweeping changes in US military posture, and domestic posture. They described how an attack on America would serve as Agit-propaganda to achieve their goals.
This has to include the new laws on “indefinite detention” inside America.

Machiavelli on Modern Leadership – Michael Ledeen, American Enterprise Inst (AEI a parent of PNAC “project” and linked to Heritage Foundation)
“we could always get lucky … providentially … like Pearl Harbor …”
Ledeen called Rove’s outsourced brain, admirer of Mussolini & Waffen SS. AEI likewise considered an outsourced part of Bush cabinet. Ledeen later picked by Bush as National SECURITY consultant.

Apathetic Internationalism – James M. Lindsay, CFR, Brookings (a terror attack might “do the trick”)

“Rebuilding America’s Defenses” – PNAC, a “project” of AEI, primarily William Kristol, Lewis “Scooter” Libby, Richard Perle, Gary Schmitt, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, John Bolton, others)
(150 signers/members) (four years of statements pressuring to invade Iraq)
famous statement — PNAC complains that changes are likely to take too long, “absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor.” [Los Angeles Times, 1/12/2003])

- Senate Armed Svcs Cmte, hearings, by Andrew Krepinevich of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments and CFR
“a latter-day ‘Pearl Harbor’ of sorts” (source: History Commons)

The Grand Chessboard – Z. Brzezinski, CFR, Foreign Affairs (various, in somewhat ambiguous language, on how democratic society rejects imperial wars, a serious problem when imperial wars are considered “vital”; also cites “Pearl Harbor” as an example of what would “help” the United States in his desired foreign policy aims.)
google Grand Chessboard quotes for more info

Rumsfeld Report Echoes ‘New Pearl Harbor’ Language – “America would NEED full-spectrum dominance to guarantee access to oil and other resources … would require massive expenditures … could not be expected from Congress – except in response to an attack as massive and frightening as Pearl Harbor.”

This list also is connected to the 20 some articles and letters published by PNAC from 1997 to 2001 pushing for a full-scale military invasion of Iraq, including an open letter to Clinton advocating immediate invasion, some describing America as “cowardly” for not toppling Saddam.

Heritage Foundation also was the host of three Afghan mujahideen lobby groups in the 80s, doing PR for what we now call “Al-Qaeda”, with supposed distinctions from the generic “mujahideen”. Heritage Foundation and American Enterprise Institute share this same building. AEI members of the Kagan family later “wrote” the initial invasion strategy and the “surge” strategy for Bush.

from History Commons
http://tinyurl.com/yedqjsk

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Gary Goodman
February 9, 2013 at 7:13 am

Yeah, it’s all “ha ha, you conspiracy theory, ha ha”.

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quinazagga
February 9, 2013 at 10:12 am

What is more interesting than these bizarre and debunked conspiracy theories is the way that Gage places his AIA membership front and center in his presentations. He seems to be attempting to cloak his organization in the officialdom of the venerable 155-year-old professional institution, even as AIA wants nothing to do with his organization. At the start of his latest film, he explains that he is “a licensed architect of over 20 years and member of the American Institute of Architects.”

Gage often seems to wield his AIA status in promoting his conspiracy theories. In making his case, he also regularly cites that more than 100 AIA members and at least six AIA Fellows have signed his petition calling for a new investigation. In total, Gage says that more than 1,700 of the petition’s roughly 16,000 signatures are from architects and engineers.

During the screening, Gage was at the very least intimating that his organization had been invited to AIA officially.

…Aside from Gage, though, there was not a single other architect in the room, much less an official from AIA, or even another member. The 80-strong crowd was made up largely of members of the local 9/11 Truth movement and other political activists.

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bobby
February 9, 2013 at 10:41 am

Honestly, lets be really real here. To those who think the government cant pull off something like this….go to your history books and read about the nazis. Or maybe about the ussr. Happened quite often and the reason the govt was able to takeover so badly in these places was because the mainstream idealogy was TWISTED. They lied to the people and the leople BELIEVED THEM. It is even easier today because of TV and all the news we have. I find it funny nobody mentioned the black boxes here. The seemingly Indestructable part of planes they add so when something happens they have audio of what happened. Well they didnt find any? Sure you can say…well maybe its just missing. Yeah maybe its just missing, but this was the first reckrded time they didnt find a blackbox? From ANY of the planes? Hmm sounds sketchy to me. Secondly maybe it wasn’t set up, but there is almost 0 question of the us govt knowing about a impending attack. They just let it happen for their own benefit. Look at pearl harbor? We needed a reason to go to war..let the japs blow shit up and no us citizen will question us. You all need to take a hard look at your country. Republican..democrat and realize no politician cares about yoyou. Its about Money….and if you keep a close mind and simply believe media because they say so….it will be hard for me and others who realized early the govt is filled with liars and immoral people, to be sorry for those in camps and other horrible things brought out by the us govt. Hitler did it….stalin did it…….history repeats itself people. Educate yourself

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saturnx311
February 10, 2013 at 1:53 am

Closed minds…and some very good research. Thanks to all the dispassionate intelligence shown here.
And to the ones who only know how to heap ridicule and sarcasm…open your minds– it can’t really hurt…can it?

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Caveman Chuck
February 11, 2013 at 4:27 am

Even if you can’t debunk these “facts” some of them are still pretty stupid. For example, “1700+ Engineers and Architects support a real independent 9/11 investigation.” Now you might ask, why is that stupid? Glad you asked!

We’ll assume that their claim of 1,700 is the correct number—I don’t care enough to try to find out if that’s accurate or not, so we’ll assume it is. They don’t say whether the 1,700 engineers are only in the U.S. or around the world. I looked up the numbers of engineers. 1,700 engineers out of the 13,000,000 engineers in the world is is 0.013% (slightly over 1/100 of 1%). Not a statistically significant number. So let’s limit it to 1,700 out of 1,500,000 engineers in the U.S. That’s 0.11% (slightly over 1/10th of 1%) of the engineers in the U.S. Still a number that is not statistically significant.

I didn’t bother looking up how many architects there are in the U.S. and the world, but if those numbers were added in, the percentage made up of the 1,700 would be even smaller.

So the point is, even if you can’t debunk the “fact” that 1,700 engineers and architects say something, that is such a minuscule amount that it’s irrelevant.

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- Fredrik
  March 29, 2013 at 6:28 am
  
  Well, how many people does it take to speak the truth?
  
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Trevor Spot
February 11, 2013 at 9:10 am

There was no inside job. The USA is just a complete pushover when it comes to military superiority. Anyone can go to the dollar store and buy a couple of cheap items and then the next week bring the entire country to its knees. All those fighter jets and radar and stuff is just made up papier mache’ models. There is no chain of command or ” intelligence” community. Everyone in the world knows any old cave dweller can make the usa a laughing stock . Poke in the eye and she goes down like a lead Zepplin. No conspiracy just a pathetically stupid weak country. …. In case you didn’t know America you are now communist and China is your Daddy.

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- albury
  May 12, 2013 at 8:23 am
  
  How much inside help was ever needed prior to 9/11 to hijack commercial airliners in US airspace? Osama bin Laden was a multimillionaire “cave dweller” who planned and financed al Qaeda’s “Planes Operation,” and since he wasn’t a hijacker, where he was dwelling on 9/11 is meaningless.
  NORAD had its usual 2 armed F-15s at Otis and 2 F-16s at Langley, and they simply didn’t have enough time to respond. Shoot-down orders aren’t casually given, nor are nationwide ATC zero orders, but grounding all of the ~4500 planes in the air at the time was the only effective way to deal with the attacks militarily. If the US military is a pushover because of 9/11, then one major with an automatic pistol at Ft. Hood single-handedly defeated it too.
  
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Trevor Spot
February 11, 2013 at 9:12 am

It seems Americans are too afraid of FACTS and prefer to rely on government fairy tales. REMEMBER there is no such thing as a conspiracy theory. Everything involving more than two people is a conspiracy and UNLESS you are standing in the “Room” EVERYTHING is a theory. History is the study of Conspiracies. Study of history reveals FACTS and these FACTS strung together to create a Theory of how things happen and then we call this HISTORY! The big diff between so called “CONSPIRACY THEORISTS and others is that conspiracy theorists actually spend time learning and doing their homework …. Others just believe whatever they are spoon fed… Hence Sheeple!!!

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woody
February 19, 2013 at 8:35 am

“Lunatic fringe…..I know your out there”……Actually you are all right here commenting.

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Nate
February 19, 2013 at 10:35 am

What we must all ask ourselves is “who had more to gain?” If you follow the money, you’ll see the truth. If Osama really did organize this, what did he gain besides a death warrant? That one question pretty much rules him out completely, especially since nothing happened further after 9/11. If we are to believe 9/11 was Osama’s wake up call to America, wouldn’t we have expected more Al Qaeda attacks of similar scale? Why would someone risk their life for such a fruitless mission? Well, the answer is simple when you look at who really had something to gain… Osama would have gained nothing had he been the true perpetrator. So the answer then lies with who really profited from all I this, and I think you all can deduce that with simple research. Sometimes I read the comments sections on things like this and wonder if anyone had true deductive skills anymore.

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- cYa
  February 23, 2013 at 6:31 pm
  
  D C can’t deduce the difference between apples and oranges. his comment is indeed signed appropriately “silly”?
  
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- cYa
  February 23, 2013 at 6:52 pm
  
  Nate: thanks for the thought provoking response. we can see the blind ones easily.
  
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D C
February 23, 2013 at 3:53 pm

Bill Clinton couldn’t get a blowie without the entire world finding out, but somehow we’re supposed to believe that the Bush Administration could pull off something of this magnitude without a single Democrat finding out? That’s just silly.

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Chris
February 24, 2013 at 2:17 pm

Lol. What idiots. Talk about deranged, you’d have to be to think a conspiracy of this magnitude is possible with our government and no one blowing it. How bout Sandy Hook? Lol. Another conspiracy? How bout the moon landing? Fake? Lol. What kind of stupid are you people? Lol.

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- Joe Martino
  February 24, 2013 at 3:14 pm
  
  What can be more productive is; instead of placing insult on others, why don’t we try to engage in conversation about the facts presented? It is one thing to come back with counter facts, it is another thing to saying nothing but insults. The fact of the matter is, more than 1/3 of americans do not believe the official story. In countries like France and germany, over 90% of their population does not believe the official story. It isn’t that the world is full of people who believe in conspiracies, it’s that the world is starting to look at a truth they never wanted to before.
  
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- Tracy
  March 19, 2013 at 9:53 am
  
  Chris….we are nowhere near the “special kind of stupid” that you obviously are. You are FAR outshining us with those comments.
  
  You just go ahead and keep trying to baffle people with your bulls*it.
  
  Personally, I think you’re a plant but even if not…then you are still a special kind of idiot.
  
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- Fredrik
  March 29, 2013 at 6:32 am
  
  “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”
  
  Adolf Hitler
  
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Clark
March 9, 2013 at 6:41 pm

Go through the comments and see who’s calling people names instead of just debating the evidence. Those people are losing the debate.

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- Jack Negrelli
  March 18, 2013 at 6:51 pm
  
  Haha excellent! Yea, and they say that we’re the fools not producing evidence while they insult us instead of presenting evidence. Conspiracy Theory = mass psychological disincentive towards finding the truth.
  
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Elated
March 28, 2013 at 1:49 am

i remember hearing that a business in one of the towers broke their lease costing them a lot n moved out because of some kind of warning that they received n supposedly passed on to the white house

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Andy
March 28, 2013 at 1:10 pm

Obama killed Osama, cmon thats like a Walt Disney story. I remember when state assassinations were black ops we never heard about, nowadays they call in a drone and wipe out 30 people to kill one target, they don’t get their day in court. Al Qaeda were created to use the same laws which brought organised crime bosses down, we should evoke the same laws to bring the US government to account for their actions. War crimes have been committed, shit even Guantanamo bay is starting to look like auschwitz.

My Theory..

I know the Germans started a counterfeiting war during WWII, Watch the film counterfeiters, Keep an open mind to how a defeated state operates, When Rome fell Christianity dominated the world, based from where… Italy. Coincidental don’t you think? War replaced by peace but still having the underlying objectives, to gain power and wealth, they succeeded there you only need to visit the Vatican. Where are the spoils of the Roman Empire, Gone, buried, rotten away. yet the Vatican survives and thrives to this day.

Now we have a crippled financial system, the EU have control over Europe without firing a weapon in the last 50 years and who is the superpower in Europe, The Germans. Many of the highest ranks in the EU and USA are children of Nazi Officers. Coincidental? Imagine a plan started 50+ years ago to bring about a new world order. One world leader, Global control and ultimate power. How would you achieve this without going to war?? read the above again it really does make sense. Shit the people controlling the EU were never voted into power. They are the bankers we all despise so much.. Oh and please remember they tried to take the US dollar and make you guys part of the single world currency, Its all a lie. Jews run this world hiding behind their bankers desks, Revenge for 2000 years of hatred and anti Semitism. They have the power and they know it.

Compartmentalisation of information is how we are kept in the dark, its up to us to put the pieces back together to really see the big picture. Mine is but a theory but can anyone else give a better reason for the shit state we are in?

One thing is for sure Muslims are not the enemy, If anything blame the Jews and Israel. More evidence points to mossad and Israel being behind 9/11 and 7/7 yet our hatred was pointed at the Muslims. One thing I know from many years of watching crime TV shows like CSI, NCIS, Monk etc is that the ones pointing the finger first are more often than not the ones who did it.

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Andy
March 28, 2013 at 1:26 pm

One thing I do know is the “Live Feed” of the second impact was 17 or so seconds behind, Is it theoretically possible for the news feed to be hacked and replaced with one they made earlier? Could 17 seconds be enough to splice reality and fiction together to fool a nation? We should investigate as to how “controlled” thermite is at demolition.. Not to put a downer on it but Thermite is kind of unpredictable, It was more likely used to weaken key structures but not totally fail, then there would be a few key charges designed to cut the last few critical points as the buildings started their decent. If it is possible to do all this then there really does need to be a proper independent investigation. Building 7 being pre rigged, the lack of sniffer dogs 2 weeks before the incident, the building works carried out, and the change in the policy to intercept hijacked aircraft are all too coincidental for me.

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Melchitt
March 28, 2013 at 11:16 pm

Regardless what you believe, this has always served as a poignant commentary on how mobs are motivated, and should remind us to always critically review the available evidence over blindly accepting the conspiratorial conjecture.

“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on
a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of
it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people
don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in
Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the
country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to
drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no
voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,
and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

by: Hermann Goering
(1893-1946) Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, President of the Reichstag, Prime Minister of Prussia and, as Hitler’s designated successor, the second man in the Third Reich. [Göring]
Date: April 18, 1946
Source: Nuremberg Diary (Farrar, Straus & Co 1947), by Gustave Gilbert (an Allied appointed psychologist).

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Bob
March 31, 2013 at 12:01 am

In the end yes this all seems to be true but why would the government leak all these coincidences? They know better than to just leave losse ends. Just think about what you
would do if you had all this power and you just decide to leave a bunch of paper trails
and witnesses. Does that make sense?

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Neal
April 3, 2013 at 5:24 am

“Tell the people a lie….Make it simple…..but make it big…..keep saying it….and eventually……..everyone will believe it” – Adolf Hitler

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tania
April 3, 2013 at 1:51 pm

They have slipped as they celebrate their glory. the big picture here is not 911. it is one of many baby steps taken towards the new world order..this past 10yrs they have been placing everything into place like the terminator seed..etc,,gmo..etc..and now they will claim the food chain through the sea..all the oil drilling is involed..and then a distration agan to keep our eye on the wrong ball.all these little bits of a jig-saw are adding up to one big picture…it is the public and their slow closed minds that have but years of delay opon everything..we all can see what is about to happen yet everybody is worn for repeating and claiming justice to a brick wall…if we want the next generation to survive we need to start a strong response,, a revolution a giant protest..A large organization,,This dragging of 10yrs non belief is draining our hero’s…more hands make lighter work..so who will stand and get lazered, pepper sprayed or shot by your local police….( what have we left ourselfs.).Green peace started up as rebels looking out for those that can not defend for themselves,,eg..whales..we need to get the message out there the same way..within a controlled and orginize supported group for the future of the unarived..mostantos won . oil drilling is happening in places it should not..and we can not wait for the next big distruction and say,,”"I told you so.”we need to gather people from all over the world and start up lots and lots of little prostest everywhere on the same topic..all those with children do not feed your children for 24hrs,,no food, drink or power..eg..televison…only do this for 24hrs willingly…now experiance all the way though what it might be like to not have all that you have today..food does not come from the shops it comes from the ground..when your children cry as they might be spoilt children of today,,do not retreat and feed them,,you must take the 24hrs as a true wake up call and all burdens through this exercise will strengthen to you…There is a difference between fasting and straving, you would be best to fast if you perfer..only do this if your children are of 8yrs or older..if you do not like this exercise for 24hrs then you will be very lost with the future..you can store food for when times arrive, but it will be sooner or later eatten,,the next best thing to do for the next generation is to seed save..horticulor corses,,etc..save and store seeds…and carry on putting the jig-saw together…( world peace.)

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kevin
April 7, 2013 at 8:40 am

Blg # 7 came down just like a controlled demolition,obviously this blg was rigged already—why?as for the towers they came down perfectly too.They also had to be rigged no question

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nacsplat
April 11, 2013 at 1:12 am

A simple exercise in logic presented at an elementary level: Show a child a video of a highrise that is severely damaged and burning (A),
then show the same child a building being brought down via controlled demolition (B). Finally, show the video of wtc7 (C). Ask the child which image (C) resembles (A) or (B). From the mouths of babes the truth shall emerge.

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- albury
  May 11, 2013 at 10:11 am
  
  Here’s another simple exercise in logic:
  http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/911NutPhysics.HTM
  Pay close attention to “It Looks Like A Controlled Demolition.”
  Show the child video of real C/Ds with audio, and “where are the loud bangs” should emerge after seeing the fire-induced collapse of WTC 7.
  A total absence of logic is necessary to believe that there’s even a plausible and coherent motive for the impossible secret C/D of a 14 year-old, nearly fully-occupied Manhattan hi-rise that’s so little known that we need a 9/11 “truth movement” to keep reminding us of it.
  Employ your ponderous grasp of logic to the fact that 12 different insurance companies, including Lloyd’s, Copenhagen Re, Zurich Financial, and Swiss Re, all paid the owner/lessee a total of $4.68 BILLION without questioning the mainstream account of the collapses, yet all went to court to contest the 2 planes = 2 incidents claim.
  
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Mariotti
April 15, 2013 at 5:11 pm

And today we have seen another example of the Theory of fear that the States is using in order to get involved in another war. Let’s have a terrorist attack and go on a long war killing millions. Spain followed same steps when Aznar was governing and what happened? Train bombing! almost 300 deaths…All this is very sad

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albury
May 11, 2013 at 7:52 am

I’m still looking for a “fact” there that’s right. All of those have been thoroughly debunked.

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albury
May 11, 2013 at 10:34 am

The facade collapse of WTC 7 actually took ~8.5 seconds, not 6.5 seconds, and is impossible to determine from any video to 1/10-second accuracy because the bottom’s obscured by buildings in the foreground and dust clouds later in the collapse, so that one’s pretty easy to debunk. NIST timed the top ~242′ in 5.4 seconds, and it’s a safe bet that the remaining 368′ didn’t come down in 1.1 seconds.
Here’s a factual response to your “pull it” yarn:
We have never, ever heard the term “pull it” being used to refer to the explosive demolition of a building, and neither has any blast team we’ve spoken with.” -Brent Blanchard of Protec
http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.pdf
Since he collected ~$861 million for the loss of WTC 7, Industrial Risk Insurers is apparently unaware of his alleged admission.

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Neo
May 14, 2013 at 9:24 am

Another nice fact to know about the 9/11 story. Also interesting to know is that the largest bulk of scrap metal from the WTC was sold, before it was examined by the 9/11 committee on explosives traces, to…China…

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- albury
  May 15, 2013 at 8:24 am
  
  GZ cleanup took ~8 months, and SEAoNY, FEMA BPAT, NSF, PANYNJ, and other SEs were on site the entire time. A blind man would have seen any explosive cuts on the ends of the steel, and charges powerful enough to cut even one W14 X 730 column would produce 130 to 140 dB at a half mile. They have 4.91″ flanges, 3.07″ webs, and 215 sq. in. cross sections, and were used in the cores of all 3 collapsed WTC hi-rises – all 4 corners in both towers’ cores, and 11 of the 24 in WTC 7′s core.
  
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Nadine
May 14, 2013 at 6:43 pm

Great idea for an article! I’m just sad it’s not very well written. I hope someone could rewrite it.

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