78 Year Old Vegan Bodybuilder Might Make You Reconsider Your Diet

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Jim Morris was a competitive bodybuilder for 30 years, and became vegan within the past twelve. At 50 he was a vegetarian, and at 65 he was a vegan.  Our understanding of human health continues to evolve and change over time, just like anything else. As science continues to shed light on the health benefits associated with eating less meat and more ‘earthly’ foods like organic fruits and vegetables,  more people around the globe are making a transition to a vegetarian and/or vegan diet for a variety of reasons. There is a reason why a plant based diet can help prevent over over 60% of chronic disease deaths.

Jim isn’t the only one, I wrote an article in November of 2013 on Frank Medrano, another Vegan bodybuilder who displays enormous amounts of strength. I show these videos to dispel the protein myth that commonly plagues vegans and vegetarians. It’s not like you’d ask a Gorilla where it gets its protein from, would you?

Research indicates that rates of heart disease and certain cancers are strongly associated with animal-protein based diets. Plant based foods on the other hand has plenty of protein and calcium along with far greater amounts of other essential nutrients like antioxidants and complex carbohydrates that you won’t find in meat or dairy products.  Here is a list of 10 protein packed plants if you would like to get started.

“The protein in animal products is filled with fats and chemicals and all sorts of stuff that’s harmful to you. When I was competing and stuffing down all that stuff, I had lots of digestive problems, I was constipated and bloated, just miserable all the time. I don’t concern myself with protein anymore, because there is enough in what I eat. I am not only healthy, but I feel better about myself and how I relate to other creatures in the world.” – Jim

If you are curious about vegetarian and vegan diets, hopefully this article will inspire you to look into it further. Studies show that vegetarians and vegans live, on average, 6 to 10 years longer than meat-eaters and they’re less likely to suffer from chronic illnesses. It’s always important to do your research if you are considering a major dietary change, don’t just take my word for it, look, search, and you will see for yourself.

Below is an interview with Jim and PETA, he talks about health problems he endured when he ate meat and dairy products. He explains that if he continued to eat unhealthy animal based products he wouldn’t be alive today.


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Here is a list of 10 protein packed plants if you’re interested. – See more at: http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/11/28/vegan-bodybuilder-displays-enormous-amounts-of-strength-in-must-see-video/#sthash.2ZHa67Xb.dpuf

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  1. JCMarra

    There’s a big difference between someone who ate meat until age 50, became vegetarian for 30 years, and has been vegan for 12, and someone who’s been a vegan all his or her life. THAT kind of athlete would truly be something to see. This man has had the benefit of eating animal products in childhood and through puberty and young adulthood.

  2. mike

    Non-Vegan body builders who are older than him………………https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhyKLgeWv8I

  3. I have been keto adapted for about 6 months now, and I feel better than I ever have. My diet looks like 60% fat / 30% protein / 10% carbohydrates.d I couldn’t do it without fatty meats and eggs and dairy products, though milk has entirely too many carbs so I steer clear of it mostly. I have noticed that being keto adapted – having your body’s metabolism running on ketones for energy instead of insulin/sugar – my blood sugar stays much more normalized and consistent. I never get spikes or have drops. I feel much more calm as well. I also do endurance and weight training.

  4. Gypsy

    Great conversation!

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  6. mike s

    More found this article a little biased against meat eaters. Latest research shows that the real risks are associated with smoked and processed meats. I believe Humans have evolved as omnivores with meat being eaten on occasion i.e. in the event of a successful hunt but fresh water fish or seafood more often due to its availability .

  7. Michael Federoff


  8. Dan

    I f****** love science. Studies are done for a reason : proof. And even then, the only good studies are the ones that do NOT look for any specific data to boost one diet over another. I hate it when people refer to subjective statements or unidirectional research subjects because it fits their point of view : “SomeONE said that this is bad”… “Some other said it is good because HE thinks that”…”Research says that you get more magnesium being a vegan”…”Research says that you get more good protein if you eat meat”… Loads of crap and useless biased information. And human evolution, unique or cut-out sicknesses or physical attributes? Gorillas? I have teeth, the fork has teeth, I’m a fork? Seriously people, come on, humans are humans, stop comparing to other species or lifeform, no one here has a primate’s dna, body constitution or brain chemistry (I hope not)… Bottom line, all objective and not specifically oriented studies are pretty formal about one thing : just feed yourself all what your body needs to live and voilà! Whatever it is, so long as it’s a variety (more of one or the other is meaningless) of vegetables, meat, nuts, fish, plants, trees, dirt, animals, rocks, alguae or funny-looking-green-vegetanimalistic stuff… as long as it’s unprocessed and, hopefully, not chemically or genetically tainted food, you’re in for a long, healthy and happy life! Special note : of all the above, the arguments that take in consideration only a couple of individuals and their respective diet to prove an “absolute” fact is “absolutely” ridiculous.

    • kevin

      I disagree to some extent. We actually are 98% chimpanzee genetically speaking,…my ex wife is 99.9. Point is, more and more we are learning about how amino chains turn “switches” in the body on or off thereby causing greater chances for stroke, heartattack, tumors and various cancers etc. I think what we eat is far more important than we fully understand.

    • I think, for me, the most important reason to adopt a vegan diet is conscience. I don’t think it can be disputed that vegans would have less reason to feel ashamed of their appetites, unless an appetite for grace is something to be ashamed of. If you can be happy and strong without having an enormously destructive footprint and without harbouring the emotional callousness that accompanies the thoughtless purchase of prepackaged bits of body without regard for disproportionate nature of the exchange (I.e.: the life of a sentient being for a few bucks), then why the hell not do it? If there’s anything to be gleaned from this clip, then maybe that’s it. Perhaps I’m more about basic vegetarianism here, though, not necessarily veganism.

      • Really well put Mark. I agree with you. For me its more about conscience . All life is sacred.

      • Sam

        well put

      • JCMarra

        Hate to break it to you, Snowflake, but your diet is just as lethal to life as any meat eater’s. Animals die to grow your cashews and soybeans, and whole ecosystems are ruined to grow plant food for human consumption. Even plants have sensibility. The more vegans who need nut meals and soy milk, the more land has to be converted to monocrops, with bad results for soft furry and feathery beings that you are too holy to kill. Or don’t those animals matter?

    • Great reply. A totally unbiased opinion.

  9. xyz

    a lot of people say: animal can think, feel.
    I’m asking, how many of them have read, know also plants are feeling, understandin our thoughts, so they can think..and comunicate between them???????????????????
    Al what I said it is scientificly demostrated, just read more ;)

    So..it is a dilema adout eating and feeling, because if plants are thinking, feeling too..we assume the best way to feed it is prana, like yoga say! :)

    Ps: i’m not yogin, just like to read, know, think, evolve :)

    • Bob

      I can barely understand you are trying to say. I don’t know what you are talking about with what you say being “scientifically demonstrated”. Animals have a nervous system and can therefore feel pain. Plants do not have a nervous system and are not “thinking, feeling too…” as you so eloquently put it.

      • Zocha

        You are wrong, Bob… what have you done during biology lessons at school??? plants are not animals, so how could the nervous system look similar? look between animals – there are not only mammals… plants do feel, can communicate and react after a message from another plant… so I have respect for frutarians only… the rest is eating killed organisms – no matter plants or animals, they were killed to be eaten by humans…

        • Bob

          Everyone who takes biology in school knows that plants do not have a nervous system. Its not that they don’t “look similar”, its that with plants, the nervous system just doesn’t exist. period. This means that they cannot feel pain and they cannot suffer. If you think about it, why would an organism which cant move ever evolve to feel pain? It makes absolutely no sense. Plants cannot “feel or communicate” the same way animals or humans can.

          • here’s one to bake your noodle Bob – there have been experiments that show plants communicate with one another and have “feelings”; sans nervous system. Seems to me that would be an even more powerful argument… it seems you’re trying to argue

        • There are a few things to point out. First: (which has been said before, but good to reiterate) Plants do not have a central nervous system and do not have pain receptors. Without pain receptors, there is no pain.

          Second: we don’t have to kill a plant in order to eat from it. 90% of a plant’s body can be lost and still be entirely regrown from precursor cells, unlike limbs.

          Third: the fruits of the plant are the ovaries of the plant, but unlike animal ovaries, they are made again and again and are rejected from the plant in order to propagate their own seed.

          Fourth: Understanding why eating animal flesh consumption can never be Sustainable is as simple as understanding the ecological energy pyramid of trophic levels. At the bottom of the pyramid are primary producers (plants), primary consumers (Vegans), secondary consumers (animals that eat Vegans), tertiary consumer (animals that eat an animal who has eaten another animal), and so on. As one goes up the pyramid, 90% of energy is lost at each step–by the time you reach secondary or tertiary consumers (most humans being tertiary, seeing as the cows they’re eating are most often fed cow’s blood and rendering plant animals and are no longer herbivorous), it’s terribly inefficient.

          It takes many times more plants to create an animal, and every animal represents not only the plants and animals it ate, but all the plants it took to create the animals it ate, and so on. There can only be a small # of keystone predators. If humans were granted the “right” to eat animal flesh, shouldn’t all humans be able to do it? But no–more than 2 billion people die every year due to lack of fresh food and drinking water.

          We can already feed the world at least 1 1/2 times over (an additional 4 billion people) if everyone were Vegan. Source: http://prime.peta.org/2013/08/hunger

          To try to invert the ecological energy pyramid with a disproportionately large amount of secondary or tertiary consumers is to invite world devastation because it destroys carrying capacity of the land and ability to grow plants in the first place by pollution and destroying top soil, creating oceanic dead zones, and contributing to climate change. Link here: http://science.opposingviews.com/being-vegetarian

          Livestock’s long shadow, 2007:

          Source: Botany and Ecology classes, TWU

      • Carmo

        But they are living beings too. I don’t know if they feel or communicate somehow, but they do live! So, if people don’t eat animals because they are living beings…Then we wouldn’t eat anything!

        • ridiculous. most people just consider their appetites and have no compassion on animals. that;s the real reason they don’t care. they are selfish.

        • steve danner

          The idea is do do the least harm. Try to kill and eat an animal, then eat some nuts, and your common sense will tell you which was least harmful. You are being contrary.

      • kevin

        Some studies have shown that merely thinking about harming a plant can cause the plants electric energy levels to spike wildly just as they do when a single leaf is burned or torn. They did this experiment on myth busters and the findings were shocking to me. Is it possible that, in the same way we differ from our methods of communication via speech rather than the most common way on the planet (which is via light) (yes more animals in the ocean than any others anywhere use light and color from chromataphores in their bodies), could there exist a level of sensitivity much more subtle but just as effective if not more than our nervous systems are? I believe that thinking in concrete terms creates concrete walls which act as mental barriers to thinking about the existsnce of any other possibilities.Mankind is a young race. If the dinosaurs history is equal to a 1000 page book, mankinds history is but a single page, so we have a lot of changing and evolving to do before we are allowed to join with much older species in the universe. Sounds nuts? Its absoloutly possible.

      • Sorry to say Bob, xyz is correct. There has been recent research which proves plants communicate with each other. I have seen the evidence and it’s concrete proof. You have no evidence to prove your statement.

    • rob

      there are fruiterians out there also for the reasons your talking about

    • I agree

    • You don’t necessarily have to kill most plants to eat them. Don’t have to kill the tree to eat the apple.

  10. doesn matter what my name is

    i will stay with my meat diet mix with some vegi here and there. There no saying we cant both co exist in this world ;D.

    • greg


  11. Paleo forever ;)

  12. Bert

    He didn’t start out his life as a vegan. He built up his body first as a meat eater. No one has met my challenge yet which is to show me one vegan who was vegan from birth from vegan Parents who is a body builder. Especially without artificial vitamin and mineral supplements. There are none !

    • the witch

      It is exactly the same what I’ve meant :) I agree in 100%!

    • Regardt

      Hi Bert, I am a vegan for the last 14 years and before that i have was vegetarian…i’m 22 years old and have started body building beginning of last year, since then I have gained 12 Kg of muscle mass and my body fat index is 6%…The human body was not designed to eat meat, any real Doctor can tell you that if you are a athlete or Body builder you will have more success on a vegan diet.

      • Ken

        Actually, no. Those teeth you have, called incisors, those are for tearing through meat. The human body is designed to eat meat. Thousands of years of evolution has brought us from scavenging forests for nuts and berries to eating animal meat.

        Any real doctor would tell you that you’re full of shit.

        Coming from a meat eater with a body fat index of 6%.

        • Actually, no Ken. The onus is on you to prove that your incisors are “for tearing through meat”. Most meat-eaters use the word “canines”, however. This has been debunked so many times, it’s a wonder you don’t do a simple google search for “real canines”. Those 2 inch long teeth that gorillas have? Those are called canines–and unlike humans’ (which were named so by scientists for location similarity only) they are true canines. Guess what gorillas use them for? To tear into the flesh of fruit. These gorillas, our closest living relatives genetically, eat a ~98-99% Vegan diet on average as an entire species. And chimps? Next closing living relative eat animal flesh (mostly insects as “animal flesh”) on average of only 9 days out of the year as a species. That’s 356 out of 365 days they’re not eating it, which is ~98% Vegan. All of the primates in fact are a Vegan or primarily Vegan species–no other animal besides human animals exploits animals like we do for the body parts or secretions of another species, nor live in a way that systematically destroys all life on its planet. Going Vegan is the #1 thing a person can do for their health, environment, ethics system, and to end world hunger.

          “Thousands of years”–most all evolutionary data shows our ancestors ate a primarily fruit and nut diet.

          Two very easy things you ought to research:

          Peristalsis. Real omnivores and carnivores (lions, tiger, bears) require ZERO fiber in their diet in order to have bowel movements. Herbivores require fiber for bowel movements. What does that say about humans? And who is constantly constipated? Not Vegans! haha

          Atherosclerosis in herbivores vs. omnivores and carnivores. You can give true omnivores and carnivores animal flesh in the amount of the 50 times what a typical human eats in a lifetime, and they will STILL never get atherosclerosis. Herbivores? Will every time. What does that say about humans?

          A good starting point: “Vegans: On the verge of extinction?” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBuGcAtLt7s

          “Uprooting the Leading Causes of Death”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30gEiweaAVQ

          • To be even more specific: herbivores are the only animals capable of developing atherosclerosis (with the exception of some genetically modified/bred dog breeds in their old age.).

            Comparative anatomy of eating:


          • Stéphane Lavergne

            At the risk of putting oil on the fire, I think you’re making a few incorrect assumptions:

            1. You assert that industrial grain-fed meat fat = wild properly-fed fat nutritionally. Our industrial food supply is completely out of whack from our nutritional needs and is environmentally disruptive, I agree, out of an unrealistic desire to eat a high amount of meat every single day at a dysmal price. There is however, room for properly sourced and fed meat in moderation in the human diet, and I contend (see point 2) that we need it for optimal health.

            2. While I really like your follow-up article comparing the anatomies of herbivores, carnivores and omnivores, the conclusion of said article is biased unfortunately. Species can evolve into new nutritional patterns, and humans seem to fit the bill perfectly: herbivores a couple million years ago as small primates, and adapting into a omnivore diet as we conquered more diverse climates, started walking upright, basically became intelligent and what we’d call “human” today. Two main indicators of that to me are our relative digestive system and brain sizes compared to our mostly-herbivore cousins: ours intestines shrank to a third of theirs as we evolved and thanks to a much fatter diet, our brains were allowed to grow substantially. I find it fascinating that our digestive system shows clear vestiges of a herbivorous diet, but that doesn’t constitute proof in itself that we are currently supposed to abide by it. (By that logic, the tiny vestigial gills in our inner ears would indicate that we were still meant to live under water. ;) ) Your note on constipation further proves by point that we evolved into mere omnivores too, because yes the Inuit eating nearly 100% meat and fat are notoriously constipated; wouldn’t want to try that!

            3. Artheriosclerosis. Unfortunately, I’ll bet there isn’t any data to show whether any human 100% vegan since birth developed it in their later years, given how strict and long that study would need to be. To be fair, that study would also somehow need to distinguish between wild game and our current mess of a commercial diet, because I have my theories on that front… :)

            With that said, of course these days we’re starting to know enough about nutrition to be able to substitute what fats and protein we would normally require from game meat in the wild, with novel plant sources such as hemp which are much less environmentally disruptive when cultivated intensively. I’m not countering your arguments to make a case for industrial farming here! Can’t stand those practices. I think however that saying we’re physically herbivorous is going too far back into our evolution to be valid: we need lots of imported fruits, seeds and nuts and some manufactured supplements year-round for optimal health on a true vegan diet (in my northern climate), which wouldn’t have been possible just 100 years ago. We can’t grow avocados in Canada but I sure can’t imagine my diet without them…

            In other words, I think veganism is a (valid!) modern-day solution to the modern-day problem of improper farming and overpopulation, but it is not a means to “eat what we’re designed to digest”. Therefore I personally still enjoy organic eggs and dairy, and a moderate amount of properly raised fish and the occasional land meat.

        • xyz

          to use your beautifull words “full of shit” are you because what you sustein about incisors..are not write on them or manual of use, you just asume, like Regardt asume, believe about vegetarians.
          Read more about mind power, yoga and others stuf, not only eating, material stuf..

        • steve danner

          Human incisors are smaller than vegan orangutan incisors, used for busting open fruits and nuts.

    • Your Mama

      Jehina Malik, vegan since birth and world champion bodybuilder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgzOIROVVBI

      Torre Washington, vegetarian since birth, vegan for almost two decades, champion bodybuilder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-s1wwThvx8

      • Raimi Lagos.

        I think that in life, one can eat everything without any harm so long as you don’t eat 2 much cuz d body needs everything. Meat, fish, chicken, pudding, semolina, rice, bush meat etc, and leave the grass and leafs 4d animals.

    • go check torre washington….or varinder singh ghuman…

    • xyz

      this beacuse od culture, not because it is not possible! If culture would be to eat just vegan from baby..we could withiot problems, so, you did not met because poepple don’t do, think like that, not beause it is not possible.
      More than that yogins claim they could live just with prana, many thing we can do with our mind but wich can seems to be imposible, more and more appers, so..a lot of things we can do, but our way to think, believs stop us from developing, doing them..our mind, energy can do a lot!!!

  13. You should also have in mind the placebo effect, it would be impossible to know the placebo of vegan and vegetarian food.

    • Ryan

      I agree but the thing is IF, and I emphasise, IF placebo does work and has a positive measurable material effect on the body then that is even better (and fascinating). This shows potential that one can influence the body with the mind.

  14. Lisa D.

    Who cares what his face looks like? However, the fact that his body is in tip top shape for a man at any age is commendable. He looks great for 77 because most of us let ourselves go. Perhaps he didn’t have the money to take care of his teeth. Hell, if he could he may have bought some by now. He’s not a walking advertisement for anything other than healthy eating. Take it for what it’s worth.

  15. the witch

    1. show me one successfull sportsman/-woman who is vegetarian/vegan from birth or at least before he/she started training
    2. nobodys words are more valueable than science – I would like to see his blood results (and also the level of Fe)
    3. there is no information, that he is not using any artificial vitamins or proteins
    4. if you think that meat is full of chemicals and fruits ans vegatables are not – you have to be either blind or death… or maybe both…

    cows are eating GMO corn the same as vegans GMO soybean
    the only thing is the cows do not have choice but people do… and they are feeding animals with GMO

    Congratulations USA – it is mostly your work…

    • I second you witch! was about to comment the same thing myself.

    • Oh wow. Why not do a google search before asking strangers to provide research for you?

      1. Jehina Malik: Vegan since birth, 7-Time Champion Bodybuilder: http://veganbodyrevolution.com/?p=939

      A myriad of Vegan bodybuilders have been Vegan (and/or Vegetarian) since childhood, which considering our largely carnist culture we’ve been born into, is more than sufficient time to prove the health benefits and muscle gain: http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/

      (PS–The longest living, largest and/or heaviest, and strongest animals on the planet: gorillas (98-99% Vegan diet on average as an entire species), elephants, oxen, buffalo, horses, tortoises, blue whales (eating zooplankton and krill at the highest sentience level as they filter eat and only eat what gets stuck between their teeth and blow out all the larger organisms) are Vegan.).

      My children are Vegan since birth (I have 2 and one on the way) with two of them being Vegan pregnancies, and one of the three, the first, being a Vegetarian pregnancy (before I went Vegan) and are not old enough yet to compete in bodybuilding championships (2 1/2 years old is the oldest). My son Landon is in the 98th percentile weight of age group–all muscle. At 10 months old, he weighed the same as some 2 year olds at 24 lb. He began walking at 10 months old, and when I went to workout, he easily lifted 2 lb. weights in both hands and began walking around with them out to shoulder level. At 11 months he can pick up my stock pot and walk around with it.

      2. Vegan friends I know post their perfect blood work as proof on fb often and even more report perfect results. Anemia happens in carnists more often because you can not absorb Heme iron, but the iron in plants is perfect, and we get more of it. Check out this video showing blood work by long time Vegan and marathon runner Durian Rider: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O_A6Mh1J48, then read all the comments with Vegans underneath who talk about their perfect blood results as well. More perfect Vegan blood results:
      Matthew Armstrong’s: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcTioeozB_I
      Vegan ninja bunny shows studies on heme iron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBuGcAtLt7s

      My husband, 2 children (with 1 on the way), and I have been Vegan for the last 2 1/2 years (children have been Vegan their entire lives), I was Vegetarian for 6 years before that, and every year we always have perfect blood work. I’ve never bothered to upload mine or theirs; however, I’m going to start requesting copies of these medical records.

      3. What are “artificial” vitamins and proteins? They’re real–if people use supplements (and many healthy Vegans I know do not just because they don’t remember to and/or they get all of their nutritional needs from a plant-based diet), it’s often because of the depleted nutrients in soil, which are a direct result of the meat-eating lifestyle–if by a multi-vitamin and B12 you mean supplements, I took this before I went Vegetarian and I continue to because I care about my health and think everyone should as well. There are a lot of good educational sources about protein and amino acid content in Vegan food, like nutritiondata.com and from the Vegetarian Resource Group: http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.php (I have researched and approve these as a Biology graduate and have taken cell and molecular biology). Essential amino acids are found in all complex starches, fruits and vegetables as a complete amino profile. Source: http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/105/25/e197

      Our bodies use amino acids as the building blocks of protein: our bodies are protein-making machines.

      An article with well-sourced credible studies debunking the “not all fruits and vegetables have protein” myth and the “you must carefully combine plants to get a complete protein” myth:


      4. If you think that toxins and dioxins don’t accumulate as you go “up” the food chain (so you have many times more increased levels of these in animal products instead of Vegan food), you are either ignorant about this well-documented fact and have not bothered to research this before making the statement, or are willfully misleading the public.

      Please read about the ecological energy pyramid of trophic levels (how it takes many times more land, water, plants, resources, petroleum dependence, is the #1 creator of pollution, to make a carnist vs. a Vegan), as well as the pesticide/herbicide/insecticide, toxins, and dioxins accumulation in animal products compared to plants.

      And what are the pesticides/herbicides/insectides created from? You might have guessed by now: as a “solution” to the meat-eating lifestyle to create bigger and more yields of crops on smaller plots of land, due to the unarable land (deforestation, desertification, oceanic dead zones, drought, destruction of top soil, #1 polluter of air, water, soil, and forests) largely from the carnist diet.

      5. ” vegans GMO soybean”

      More than 90% of all U.S. corn goes to livestock, 80% of all U.S. soy goes to livestock, and 70% of all U.S. grains go to livestock. Source: UN FAO fact sheet, http://www.tofurky.com/whyeatveg/meat_of_the_matter.html.

      While livestock is largely fed GMO foods and most soy is GMO (which is not right no matter who is getting it), it is not the Vegan human’s soy which is GMO–I challenge you to find any product containing soy for human consumption that does NOT say non-GMO and/or Organic.

      Every single product I have ever picked up containing soy has ALWAYS said non-gmo or organic (this is in the U.S.). Again, this goes back to complete ignorance of actually attempting to live a Vegan lifestyle, which it’s obvious you haven’t even bothered to do or read your labels and are simply spewing out rhetoric, and not from experience (unless you don’t live in the U.S. and I can’t speak personally for overseas products–however, U.S. Vegans hear carnists in the U.S. making this statement all the time, and if they’re making it and are clearly wrong about soy products for human consumption that are supposedly gmo, why should I expect that to not be the case somewhere else too?).

      While you didn’t mention this next one, many carnists appear to not like having to admit they know nothing about the actual health benefits of soy, so they go for the quickest rumor they can find. This article debunks all the ones I’ve heard: http://freefromharm.org/health-nutrition/vegan-doctor-addresses-soy-myths-and-misinformation/

      Probably the most often stated myth, dispelled: “I will have increased risk of breast cancer if I consume too much soy.”

      Soy increases phytoestrogen levels, not estrogen levels. Phytoestrogen does not have the same effect as estrogen. Genistein is commonly known as phytoestrogen, which targets estrogen-mediated and androgen-mediated signaling pathways in the processes of carcinogenesis. Furthermore, genistein has been found to have antioxidant properties, and is shown to be a potent inhibitor of angiogenesis (blood vessel creation, which is particularly important to not have feeding cancer cells) and metastasis (spread of cancer from one organ or tissue to an adjacent part).

      Multiple studies show that the intake of soy may decrease risk of breast cancer, while none of the twenty studies I searched show increase for risk of breast cancer. Multiple studies that researched long-term benefits show that the sooner in life a person begins consuming soy, the greater the protective benefit.


      These are a few of the studies I posted on my profile last year.

      Feel free to show studies that show otherwise–I always like learning new info!

      • European


        You have to be very reach to use only organic products… What about other vegans??? I presume most of them are not reach enough to buy only organic…

        Thanks God I do not live in U.S., it is devil’s den when it comes to agriculture. GMO, BGH – it was all started by american “scientists” in your country…
        I am an organic farmer eating mostly organic (but not only) – meat and animal products, vegetables and fruits. I have no health problems and my blood results are perfect. Toxins and dioxins are mostly your (US) problem… I also wouldn’t eat any US-produced meet… You are the only country feeding most of animals with corn, which was not eaten by them naturally. All problems are caused by people wanting more and cheaper. The cows should eat grass, as before people gave them corn…

        I’ve meant protein powder to mix with water and drink – and it was a question about bodybuilders or sportsman, not you or your children… I am not interested neither about your health or habits… I was about sb. who needs more energy – even if for training instead of work…

        • hey European you sound a bit high on your horse. My wife works for a couple who raises grass fed meats. They sell at farmer’s markets and trade for Organic Produce. Our house is full of whole foods and meats and we are not from Europe. Who set the standards for Organic in the first place BTW? Not all of the US is bad. I have also been to Europe and I loved it. Europe has its issues though.

      • In Norway all cows have to bee on a grass field at least 8 weeks pr year. They mostly eat hay, the rest of the year. No GMO for the cows. We have a lot of land so both sheep and cows can be grass fed, and that’s good for the environment, the woods, and our nature. Good that you have perfect blood work so do I, and a lot of Norwegian and Swedish people eating a low carb diet. Yes we do eat a lot of vegetables, maybe half our plate, and then we eat egg, meat or fish. We use fat like butter or olive oil or coconut.

        Latest research, don’t have the links here show that it is more important to eat ecological vegetables and fruits due to meat. There are little traces of poison in the meat compared to the fruit and vegetables. That said, it is usually better conditions for animals raised ecologically.

        That you can be healthy as a vegan no doubt about it, I thing you can be healthy on any diet. And unhealthy.

        As meat eaters we have a lot to learn in good ways of eating more green. But sainig that your blood works only is good on an vegan diet is wrong. Most people eat to much junk, if the switc to vegan or LCHF they make more food by them self, and eat less junk. Both the Masai people, the Eskimos and the Kitawa (they ate fish, but about 80% fruit and sweet potato) are extremely healthy groops of people. All of them having there fat as sauterd, and the two first groups with little to no green part…

  16. Debss

    point should be that every 1 should want the best for themselves, no matter what size, shape, ethnicity or class xxx

  17. He is primarily voicing what works for him and if he is in better health because of his choice, that’s to be celebrated. I’m 51 and have no conditions, diseases, illnesses and take NO medication. I was blessed to be able to reverse hypothyroidism about 10 years ago after eliminating dairy, significantly reducing meat (I bought organic at the time), increasing fruit, vegetables, water, added supplements, exercising, getting more rest and reducing stress. My allergies also went away. I keep moving toward vegetarian but haven’t made that transition entirely but there is definitely a difference in how I feel when I don’t eat meat versus when I do.

  18. Playing devil’s advocate here…Ok his body is taken care and this is what works for him that’s great for him, he looks his age with muscles doesnt look any more youthful then the next 77 year old, and his teeth are not take care of could that be because of a lack of milk?? just an observation…I mean if you are going to advocate that one thing is better over another shouldnt you have your entire body from head to toe representing what you are advocating for??

    • Fari

      It clearly stated that he did not start a change in his diet till he was 50 so it would be reasonable to think that he had already aged to some extent. He looks healthy to me. His teeth have nothing to do with lack of milk as human beings do NOT require animal milk for nutrients. If the choices he made to change his lifestyle worked for him then that is great props to him on sticking with it as it is not the easiest path to take especially at 50

      • Chef

        @Fari: well said!

    • dee john

      I agree with your observations…and the sclera of his eyes give an indication that there is something wrong with his heart or his liver…

    • Bloopity

      RE: Lack of milk – unless he were drinking unpastuerized/non-homogenized milk, he could drink all the milk in the world and it’d not help his teeth. Same for you, and me. The process that pasteurizes our dairy also kills off the stuff that allows our bodies to absorb the calcium. If it’s been heat-treated (all milk you buy in stores) then it’s absolutely useless for calcium intake. Eating a large quantity of dairy will actually harm you – it WILL pull calcium FROM your bones. So much for eating dairy to prevent osteoporosis! Dairy (not incl. cultured or fermented dairy, which is Ph neutral) creates an acidic atmosphere in the body, and calcium corrects this balance – the largest deposit of calcium in our bodies being our bones – this calcium is used to neutralise the acidity and is leeched out through urine. So a diet rich in milk will actually create a calcium deficiency! Your bone density will be sacrificed in order to save your kidneys.

      The push for eating/drinking more dairy for calcium is a load of hogwash, benefiting the dairy industry and paying-off governmental handshakes. Vegetables have plenty of calcium – more than enough to provide our daily needs (provided we eat properly, not a ton of junk). Seriously, google the calcium levels found in common vegetables like green leafies and carrots.

    • Radar Eyes

      Lack of (cow) milk has nothing to do with developing bad teeth in adult age. Just Google it. Dental health is, to a certain degree, also genetically predefined. Point is: being vegan does not give you bad teeth.

      • It sure can if you eat a lot of carbs. Wheat and refined cards are a big cause of tooth decay.

    • Ryan

      Just a comment on the milk and teeth thing. Both my grandmother and grandfather were vegetarian (I’m not) since they were children. Never drank a drop of milk in their life but had perfect teeth until the day they passed away in their late 90s. I recall that they ate a lot of fresh green vegetable which probably supplied them with enough calcium, not a nutritionist though so that is just a guess.

    • He needs braces. That doesn’t have anything to do with nutrition. He needs an orthodontist

    • Nope

      You’re kidding me, right? Have you seen the average 77 year old? They look nothing like this dude. He has more muscle mass than 75% of the male population in their twenties in the States. That doesn’t mean he’s going to LOOK more youthful in his features. But respect due to his actual physical form- at his age that’s VERY rare.

  19. omnivorous

    lol “you are what you eat [therefore] death, and pain, and fear… despair” as if we (meat eaters) all made the choice to buy cheaply raised and abused animal meat? awareness is a good thing for that, it opens you eyes to reality, and gives you an opportunity to choose wisely. i was a vegetarian for many years, and also a vegan for a couple. i was well informed, studied almost everyday about nutrients, quality of food, and ayurveda. it turned out veganism wasnt for me, and i found out I am lactose intolerant. i eat meat now. not everyday, but once every few days. its good for me. i know it, because i feel it. most of the meat i eat lived all its life in the wilderness, and took severeal weeks and alot of energy to catch. its a fare game. otherwise, i am lucky to live in an area where good organicly fed and well treated animals are raised for meat. and of course, I dont only eat meat! Like most meat eaters!!! I grow sprouts, and veggies, and legumes… and who knows, maybe when I reach aged 50, my body will tell me that i should stop eating meat!! and Im totally ok with that! but that’s not what it wants at the moment!

    by the way, if you’d studied anthropology, you would know that even our friendly vegetarian chimps and gorilla friends also eat meat (small monkeys, in this case!!!) once in a blue moon.

    the point of my rant is that its easy to make a judgement when you are ignorant or closed minded.
    how do you know that an apple tree doesn’t weep everytime it sees you bite into its child bearing apple?
    how do you think a plant feels when you rip its leaves out of the ground to make a fancy salad?
    maybe we should all just eat air and sunlight!!! oh wait… maybe it would hurt the sun!!!

    seriously, be reasonable… make a sensible choice…and listen to your body’s call!! after that, I chose to eat local, that’s my priority, because i think the environmental damage caused by fuel in transport (and lets not get into economical issues here… i mean, really, do we need to buy carrots grown in mexico, when they grow perfectly fine here, in my east canadian garden??) is far worst on the GLOBAL entity we form, than anything else my choices involve. and i do my best at choosing what creates the minimum damage. therefore, we grow our own food, my partner hunts and traps and we look forward to raising our own animals.

    most people don’t even know how to eat probably and have little knowledge of food. how many kids have i heard say: im vegetarien because i love animals, yet all they eat is cupcake and cocacola. nice… heathly choice!

    and by the way we are not scavengers, we are omnivorous. and even if we were scavengers, they are a very important part of the circle of life. remember the lion king???
    cut the b*llsh*t, be reasonable, and listen to your body.
    as much as I agree with the peta movement for raising awareness and creating change, their campagne induces guilt and fear. that’s not a good fuel for healthy choices.
    we all come from variant genetic and cultural backgrounds. judging one for what they eat is just as bad as judging them for the color of their skin or the name of their god.

  20. I am 52 and also follow a vegan diet, mostly raw… I am 6’3 230 lbs with a 34″ waist – I am as strong and vibrant as I was in my 20s… I just wrote a post on My blog yesterday on this very subject – Synchronicity – http://stormwolfwords.wordpress.com/2014/04/29/life-or-death-alkaline-vs-acidic-your-choice/

    • shalonda skinner

      That’s incredible!!! #myinsiration

    • Bloopity

      WONDERFUL blog post, Storm Wolf! Thanks for sharing :)

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