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    theancient1
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    Hi everyone
    We see the trouble our society has and its not going in the right direction ,we need to change and we need to change the way we think fast , the monetary system has to go , politics has to go ,borders has to go and work with each other in making our Earth a better place before its destroyed , i do not now now if any of you is aware of Project venus but its sounds quite promising ( project venus-youtube) ,,.we need to act fast , we need to leave fear , worries , hate , manipulations ,control if we are going to survive . Peace

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    Noah Bonn
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    Greetings Ancient One :)
    The Venus Project (and Jacque Fresco’s resource-based economic model in general) address some important issues that our current socioeconomic system doesn’t: the unsustainable growth imperative, collective debt-slavery, and the functional limitations of private property- just to name a few. I was very impressed with the concept when I first saw Zeitgeist: Addendum, where it’s introduced. After now having read Fresco’s book, The Best That Money Can’t Buy, however, I’m not as sold on it as I thought I was.
    My main issue with it is that it’s a centrally-planned economic system. Firstly, this raises the age-old “socialist calculation debate.” Markets are a mechanism to discover what people really want. The Venus project proposes to calculate people’s needs for them based on public surveys, which will always fall short, especially from a cultural standpoint. For example, it is extremely difficult to reflect in a survey the personal value of something that is hand-made and artisan. That’s why anything large and centrally planned (whether the USSR or Wal-Mart) always has a cookie-cutter, soul-less feel to it.
    Secondly (and this might even be the bigger issue for me) the economy is treated as one giant entity. So if you want to do something differently (like making a new type of clothing), you have to steer the Titanic. Markets allow the economy to function more like a flock of birds where every participant is autonomous. You can just go make your new kind of clothing, and if people want it, the demand will allow it to grow organically.
    All that being said, we still need a way to address the issues that the RBEM was designed to correct. A different money and banking system allows us to address the debt-slavery and growth mandate issues, so I’m a big advocate for that. Also I think we’re going to be seeing a lot of private ownership models becoming increasingly obsolete. Consider things like file-sharing, creative commons publishing, open-source designs, and systems based around gift economics like couch-surfing and ride-sharing. Personally, I feel that the limitations of private property are becoming increasingly obvious, and it will kind of just dissolve when we no longer need it. I don’t feel the need to abolish private property the way Fresco advocates.
    Lastly, I’ll just say that if you look at really big and complex systems in nature, they are always self-organizing. Ecosystems, weather patterns, spiral-armed galaxies- all exist in perfect equilibrium with no central planning. That’s the economic model I think is really going to allow us to express our potential: natural, self-organizing systems.

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