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A Response To Elon Musk’s Recent Comments About Extraterrestrials

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    Elon Musk recently made an appearance on the Joe Rogan show stating that he spends zero time thinking about extraterrestrial life and that there is no evidence for it. Apparently, he knows nothing about the UFO phenomenon nor has any interest in it.

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    Just because someone is very popular, does that mean we should hang on every word they say? Is their ability to decipher what is and what isn't any greater than mine or yours? How much are we influenced by "popular" people? Do we think for ourselves?

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What Happened: Elon Musk recently made an appearance on the Joe Rogan show and there was a brief discussion about the UFO/extraterrestrial phenomenon between the two. Collective Evolution has been covering the phenomenon, in depth from multiple angles since our inception in 2009. If you’d like to learn more about it you can dive through our article archive, from the most recent to last, here.

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When it came to the topic of extraterrestrial life, Musk referenced Carl Sagan, who once said that either there are no extraterrestrials, or there are many, both possibilities are “equally terrifying.” Personally, I understand why they (the two possibilities) would be perceived as “terrifying,” but completely disagree with that perception. If there are many intelligent extraterrestrial life forms out there, including ones that have been and are visiting our planet, I don’t believe this has to be something “terrifying” at all, regardless of whether or not the phenomenon represents a threat (You can read more about the “threat” perception here). Based on what we know about the UFO phenomenon and all of the data and information that’s come out over the past several decades, perceiving the behaviour of these unknown objects as a threat, in my opinion, seems to be unwarranted.

Musk went on to ask, if there are aliens where are they? Stating (jokingly) that if they are around then they’re  quite subtle, that if they really wanted to, they could land in New York, for example at say “here, look at me I’m real.” That’s very true, Elon, but perhaps extraterrestrial groups that are visiting our planet, if they are, are not quite interested in being noticed? After all, there is sufficient evidence suggesting that governments have been desperate to capture UFO technology and that governments do indeed have these technologies in their possession, or at least “rogue” factions of the government and private industry.

Apollo 13 astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell once told the world that “Yes there have been crashed craft, and bodies recovered.” He is seen making these statements in this documentary. Eric W. Davis, a renowned astrophysicist who worked with the Pentagon UFO program stated that he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department Agency, as recently as March 2020 about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this Earth.” Christopher Mellon, a former Deputy Assistant Defense Secretary for Intelligence from 1997 to 2002 has confirmed that he was  present during this testimony. He himself has been quite outspoken about the phenomenon over the past few years.  Dr. David Clarke, an investigative journalist, reader and lecturer at Sheffield Hallam University who was also the curator for The National Archives UFO Project from 2008–2013, came across some interesting documents suggesting that the UK was desperate to capture UFO technology. Paul Hellyer, former Canadian defence minister claimed that the protocol when military jets were scrambled to intercept a UFO was to “shoot first and ask questions after.” The most viewed FBI document has to do with “downed” extraterrestrial craft. You can read more about that particular document here.

It wouldn’t be nice to come here and constantly be “shot” at. Furthermore, perhaps these beings operate at a different level of consciousness, perhaps there are reasons that we cannot even comprehend as to why as to why there haven’t been any mass landings? As far as mass sightings, these occur quite frequently. The “Phoenix Lights” are one of many great examples of that. Perhaps they do not think we are ready? Perhaps, again, they don’t have any interest being noticed by our civilization at the present time? Imagine looking down on our planet from an observer’s perspective, to be honest it may seem  quite scary.

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Musk then made the statement that, “To the best of my knowledge, there is no evidence for alien life on Earth…There’s no direct evidence for alien life…It’s got to be at least as good as a 7/11 or ATM cam.”

I understand this perspective, but again, the statement goes to show how undereducated Musk is about the UFO/extraterrestrial phenomenon. In the podcast he even admits to spending zero time thinking about it, so how could he know anything about it? Despite this, he stated that, “Honestly, I think I would know if there were aliens.” Again, I can understand him, it would be nice if we could just pull up a photo of an actual extraterrestrial, or point to some sort of hard evidence.

I’m not sure at all why he makes this statement, that “he would know.” Perhaps he believes he would know given his involvement within the space industry, but I don’t think that qualifies him at all in any way to be in the “know.” This topic has been covered in secrecy for a very long time. Look at Robert Bigelow, for example, an aerospace giant for decades, would he be “in the know” more so than Musk? Bigelow has openly stated that he has knowledge that extraterrestrial life is and has been visiting our planet. What makes him any different than Musk? Is it simply because Bigelow has examined and researched the topic, and Musk spends, as he says, “zero” time thinking about it?

This sentiment from Musk differs greatly from the one he gave at the “World Government Summit”a few years ago, where he said, if there are super intelligent aliens, “they’re probably already observing us.” How come back then they would be observing us without ever letting us know? Back then he stated that the human race was probably too “dumb” to realize it.

After Musk made the 7/11 ATM comment, Rogan reminded him of the video released by the Pentagon in conjunction with the To The Stars Academy (TTSa), and the United States Navy confirmation of the UFO phenomenon. Musk apparently had no idea of this event, which again goes to show just how unaware of the UFO phenomenon he is, and something he admitted to, again, having no interest in.

In the event mentioned above the Navy pilots witnessed an object descend from 60,000 feet above sea level to just over the ocean in an instant while simultaneously losing their radar and navigation systems. This has something that’s happened a number of times, and is quite evident in the declassified literature that’s now available to the public. This is something that’s happened thousands of times over a span of multiple decades. One example I like to use comes from Iran in 1976. Both of the pilots were scrambled to intercept a UFO, “

As the F-4 approached a range of 25 nautical miles it lost all instrumentation and communications. When the F-4 turned away from the object and apparently no longer a threat to it, the aircraft regained all instrumentation and communications. Another brightly lighted objects came out of the original object. The second object headed straight toward the F4.” (source)

I am quite aware that UFO does not equate to extraterrestrial, but having been in this field for more than 10 years I am quite convinced that some of these objects are indeed extraterrestrial and I believe there is good evidence to suggest that. That being said, what constitutes “evidence” seems to be different in the minds of many.

In the TTSA case mentioned above, Renowned UFO researcher, scientist, mathematician, and astrophysicist Dr. Jacques Vallée also recently made an appearance on the Joe Rogan show and stated the following.

We have to stop reacting to intrusions by UFOs as a threat, I mean that’s the whole thing behind this new task force, as much as I respect, you know, the task force, my colleagues and I want to cooperate with them to the extent that we can bring information or resources to what they do. But there is more, this is not, should not be looked at specifically as a threat…With the phenomenon that we observe if they wanted to blow up those F18s they would do it. Obviously that’s not what it’s all about, and this idea of just labelling it all as a threat because it’s unknown, that’s the wrong idea. (source)

Vallée is one of many sources I advise you to seek out if you want to actually learn more about the phenomenon. I’m glad Rogan had him on his show.

Concluding Comments: It wasn’t long ago when UFOs were considered a “conspiracy theory.” At that time there was clear evidence of their existence. When it comes to actual extraterrestrial beings, we do have countless amounts of stories, many of which corroborate with each other in quite an extraordinary way and do, in many cases, corroborate with UFO sightings.  When it comes to Elon Musk’s claims stating that there is no clear evidence, that depends on one’s definition of evidence. One thing is quite certain, “condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance” – Quote often attributed to Albert Einstein.  Musk, admittedly knows nothing about the phenomenon, he is not a great source for information regarding to the phenomenon and for him to make such statements about it truly does come from a place of not having looked into the phenomenon.

How often do we lend “popular” people an ear and hang on every word they say. Is their ability to to decipher what is and what is and what isn’t any greater than yours or mine? Just because someone has a large following does not make them any more credible. Remember, think for yourself and do your own research. It’s great that this topic is no longer taboo, and more “mainstream” people are actually having serious discussions about it.

I encourage you to visit our article archive about the UFO/extraterrestrial topic if you want to learn more about it. That includes you Elon Musk 😉

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US Air Force is Building Telemetry Stations Along The East Coast To Track UAP Activity

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    Several telemetry stations are set to be built along the US east coast to begin tracking UAP activity.

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    Are these truly signs that the US military is now taking this subject seriously? Or has it done so behind the scenes for quite some time?

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The United States Air Force will construct a new telemetry station in Florida that will use cutting-edge tracking equipment to record data mainly from UFOs. This development is most likely connected to Aviator Ryan Graves’ assertion that there were sensitive air space intrusions practically daily on Florida’s East Coast for two years. For decades, the United States Department of Defense has reserved the specific air space in question for national security concerns. It is clearly a no-fly zone.

I had contacted the Plans Examiner Supervisor for Pasco County’s Building Department at the time of this writing. For the past seven years, Jeff Robert Blask has had the distinction of being a part of substantial progress. He has assessed construction designs for buildings ranging from new residences to new hospitals to guarantee compliance with the Florida Building Code.

A Project Engineer contacted Pasco County in April 2021 to obtain a permit for the facility’s construction. Mr. Blask understood from his expertise that the Federal Government does not require licenses to develop on state or municipal territory, therefore he was perplexed as to why permission was being asked for what was clearly a military complex. When Jeff inquired, the Project Engineer stated that the property was leased rather than owned by the federal government. As a result, the exemption is inapplicable.

The location is made up of multiple structures, including a 100-foot tall tower with a radar dome, two 50-foot collapsible auxiliary towers, and an elevated monitoring facility with an observation deck.

Approved plans (Public Record)

Approved plans (Public Record)

Approved plans (Public Record)

Approved plans (Public Record)

Jeff Blask wrote in his publication —

“Normally, I wouldn’t look at this particular project with too much zeal especially since MacDill Air Force Base is about 45 miles south at the southern tip of Tampa Bay. MacDill is Central Command for Middle Eastern operations. However, being that I am a life-long UFO enthusiast and given everything occurring recently, my radar went off, no pun intended.”

Mr. Blask said to the Project Engineer “Wow! That’s some hefty equipment. This is obviously for tracking possible UAP activity that we’ve had around our coasts in recent years.”

“You got it! And as a matter of fact, if you are interested in that subject it may also interest you to know that this facility is not being manned and monitored by MacDill Air Force Base… it’s being monitored in its entirety by Eglin.” responded the Project Engineer.

“The assets themselves are not classified, however, the data that will be collected is. Therefore, this facility will be under heavily armed guards and only people with Top Secret clearance will be allowed in.” Added the Engineer that Mr. Flask was speaking with.

Jeff Flask has written in his own story posted to thejolt.net that he has learned that the private contractor has been asked to construct several similar facilities along with the coastal areas.

“Needless to say, I was somewhat speechless. First and foremost, he so nonchalantly confirmed what this site was to be used for and secondly, this site is being monitored by Eglin Air Force Base, a large 640 square mile base that’s about 60 miles east of Pensacola; not MacDill our local base here in the greater Tampa Bay Area.” stated Jeff Blask.

This demonstrated to him, at his own grassroots level, that the military is now taking the UAP issue seriously.

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The Six Layers of The UFO Phenomenon

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  • The Facts:

    Dr. Eric Davis is a consultant with numerous government research studies (AATIP, AWSAP, NIDS etc). Vallee & Davis were scientists for NIDS, a research organization privately funded by Robert Bigelow of Bigelow Aerospace, a US government contractor

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    Can we expect that the government's version of UFO/UAP disclosure is going to be forthcoming and honest?

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The US government has something vital to say to us, but it is having difficulty finding the perfect words. The UAP Task Force report to Congress will almost certainly contain evidence that will make scientific doubters extremely uncomfortable. However, those hoping for specific wording from officials labeling the Phenomenon as “alien” or “extraterrestrial” in order to make a decision will be disappointed.

Scientists that have examined the phenomenon, including those with security clearances and contracts with the United States Department of Defense, as well as those from academic institutions, are having difficulty determining if UFOs are physical, psychological, extra-terrestrial, or inter-dimensional. However, they all agree that something of high-strangeness is occurring.

It may be argued that the spirit of the UAPTF report to Congress is to get this information out there without generating widespread fear.

What I feel is going on here is that the few people in the US administration who are aware of the problem feel it has a psychological component to it and is unsure how to deal with it.

As earth-shattering as the topic of non-human intelligence is, it would be much easier to explain that UFOs were a group of young stalwarts in an advanced civilization on Planet X of the star Sirius or otherwise, getting liquored up on a weekend, and hopping into the old space jalopy, motoring over to Planet Earth, and jollying the natives.

Dr. Jacques Vallée has long been considered as the most renowned scientific investigator of unexplained aerial occurrences. In Steven Spielberg’s Close Encounters of the Third Kind, he inspired the character of the French UFO researcher. Vallée studied mathematics at the Sorbonne and astrophysics at Lille University. He co-created NASA’s first computer-based comprehensive map of Mars. He worked for the U.S. Air Force’s senior scientific consultant on UFOs under Project Blue Book. He is now working on a project to investigate UFO materials in a Silicon Valley lab. After a long life of trying to understand this phenomenon, Dr. Vallée confesses that:

“Human beings are under the control of a strange force that bends them in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role of a bizarre game of deception.”

Dr. Eric Davis is yet another researcher on the cutting edge of the UAP field. For decades, he has advised the United States government, most notably on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the Advanced Weapons Special Application Program (AWSAP), and others. According to Dr. Davis,

“…there is a lot of evidence that the government has known, but the problem is, it’s so outside the realm of human comprehension that they can’t deal with it on a legislative basis, they can’t deal with it on a military, operational basis, they can’t deal with it on the basis of presidential policy.”

So what informs the researchers’ fear?

A recently discovered study titled Incommensurability, Orthodoxy, and the Physics of High Strangeness: A 6-Layer Model for Anomalous Phenomena, co-written by both Dr. Vallée and Dr. Davis, sheds some light on some data points and intelligence commissioned by the National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS). The very organization that gave rise to AWSAP and research at Skin Walker Ranch.

In the paper, the researchers provide a novel methodology for UAP analysis that also incorporates SETI findings. In every scientific question, we must be able to determine the amount to which a hypothesis, when verified and confirmed to be accurate, “explains” the observed facts. However, in the case of UAP, like in physics generally, a hypothesis may be “confirmed true” while an apparently conflicting theory is also proven correct. We must be prepared for the day when we will be able to construct scientific hypotheses for UAP, and we may be faced with a similar predicament.

Dr. Vallée and Dr. Davis’ approach is built on an apparent contradiction since they believe that UAP may be viewed as both physical and “psychological.” They think it will be exciting as a cohesive approach to a perplexing event that exhibits both undeniable physical effects like a technological gadget or craft and mental effects reminiscent of poltergeist and psychokinetic phenomena literature. They use the term “psychic” to refer to the relationship between physical reality and human awareness.

As just one example, the occurrences at Fatima included light phenomena, atmospheric and temperature effects, and accounts of an apparently metallic disc in the sky, while many of the 70,000 witnesses also experienced spiritual and psychological impacts. The primary witnesses experienced mental states favorable to extrasensory connection with a non-human entity presumed to be the Virgin Mary.

The sense of absurdity and contradiction in these two aspects is comparable to scientific perplexity during the particle/wave or, more recently, quantum entanglement and multi-dimensional transport debates. The paradox stems from our language’s inability to comprehend a phenomenon that defies definition.

Physical Aspect

The researchers find six major “layers” in terms of human perceptions of these traits when analyzing the characteristics of sightings that cannot be explained by basic natural explanations. The first one is the “physical layer,” which is seen in most witness reports describing an object. This layer contains all of the data that we can perceive using our senses and equipment. For instance, how an item occupies a location in space in accordance with geometry, or how it leaves material residue in accordance with Earth’s chemistry. Thus, in a fundamental physical sense, UAP is consistent with a technology based on a craft that looks to use a revolutionary propulsion mechanism. Because of the existence of this layer, conventional ufologists have claimed that UFOs and similar occurrences were caused by extraterrestrial technologies.

Anti-Physical Aspect

For lack of a better phrase, the researchers refer to this second layer as “anti-physical.” The variables are the same as those in the physical category, but they generate patterns that contradict what mainstream physics predicts: Objects are defined as physical matter, yet they may also be described as “sinking into the earth” or “shrinking in size, getting larger, or changing shape on the spot.” Another typical complaint with this layer is that the craft becomes blurry or translucent on the spot.

Other anti-physical observations have been documented, including –

  • Dividing into two or more things, many of which merge into one object at a slow speed
  • Disappearing at one spot and reappearing somewhere else instantly
  • Remaining clearly visible while not being detected by radar
  • Creating time dilation or missing time
  • Causing topological inversion or space dilatation (the item was judged to have a tiny exterior size/volume, but witnesses saw a massive interior many times the outside size)
  • Appearing as colorful, incredibly brilliant light balls under intelligence control

Psychological Aspect

The third layer is concerned with the psychology of the witnesses as well as the social circumstances that surround them. Human observers are more likely to notice UAP when they are in their typical habitat and social groups. They notice the things are unusual, but they try to explain them away as ordinary occurrences until they are forced to admit that the thing was actually unknown.

Physiological Reactions

Physiological reactions are another significant level of information. The phenomenon is reported to cause effects perceived by humans sound (beeping, buzzing, humming, whistling, roaring, etc), vibrations, burns, partial paralysis (inability to move muscles), extreme heat or cold sensation, odors (powerful, sweet, or strange fragrance, rotten eggs, sulfurous, pungent, musky, etc), metallic taste, pricklings, temporary blindness when directly exposed to objects light, nausea, bloody nose and/or ears; severe headache, difficulty breathing, loss of volition, severe drowsiness in the days following.

Psychic Aspect

The fifth effect category can only be labeled psychic because it involved a class of phenomena commonly found in parapsychology literature, such as impressions of communication without a direct sensory channel, motions and sounds without a specific cause, and motions and sounds outside the observed presence of a UAP. Levitation of the witness or of nearby objects and animals. A UAP’s maneuvers seemed to anticipate the witness’ thoughts. Personality changes promoting unusual abilities in the witness, such as healing others.

Cultural Aspect

The sixth and last category could be referred to as cultural. It is concerned with how society reacts to the reports, how secondary effects (hoaxes, fiction, and science-fiction imagery, scientific theories, cover-up or exposure, media censorship or publicity, sensationalism, etc.) emerge, and how members of a given culture perceive the concepts that UAP observations appear to challenge. The phenomenon’s largest influence in the United States must be on broad acceptance of the concept of life in space, as well as a more restricted, but possibly very substantial, alteration in the common perception of non-human intellect. The cultural backdrop of anomalous findings was heavily influenced by religious beliefs in prior societies such as medieval Europe or Portugal in the early years of the twentieth century.

What Are We Dealing With?

A framework for scientific hypothesis on the UAP observations can be built on the identification of the six major layers of UAP effects. If we formulate a view of the problem in a single statement at this point, that statement will be:

Everything works as if UAPs were products of a technology that integrates physical and psychic phenomena and primarily affects cultural variables in our society through the manipulation of physiological and psychological parameters in the witnesses.

The purpose of the technology may be cultural manipulation- possibly but not necessarily under the control of a form of non-human intelligence — in which case the physiological and psychological effects are meant to that end. But the parapsychologist with a Jungian framework may argue that the human collective unconscious is also a potential source of such effects — without the need to invoke alien intervention.

A Covert Request for Help

In a recent podcast, Sam Harris said that the highest echelons of the US government had reached out to him and other members of his network to ask for their assistance in disseminating UAP knowledge to the public. Sam Harris is an American author, philosopher, neuroscientist, and podcast host. His work spans logic, religion, ethics, free will, neuroscience, meditation, psychedelics, philosophy of mind, politics, terrorism, and artificial intelligence. Reaching out to thought leaders like Sam Harris is a significant step forward for the US intelligence community. On June 5th, Hal Puthoff, another scientist with the highest levels of security clearance, presented to the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies, and the essence of his message was that it was time for the intelligence community to hand over the data they had gathered to the scientific establishment.

Perhaps the UAP Taskforce Report to Congress is a covert request for assistance from a government out of alternatives and ideas.

But first, they must overcome the stigma that they have established. And the plans are in motion.

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Pentagon Spokesperson Questioned On DoD Having Possession Of Alien Bodies & Crafts

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    Journalist Jeff Schogol asked the DoD's primary spokesperson John F. Kirby a very direct question about whether the Pentagon secretly holds alien bodies and spacecraft.

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    Can we expect an honest and complete revelation from the UAP report compiled by the US Intelligence community that's expected later this month?

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UFOs have gone from zero to hero in what seems like a week. A topic once ridiculed by mainstream culture now fronts some of the most credible and widely read newspapers in the world. Currently, many are eagerly waiting for what they believe will be an honest and revealing report from the US intelligence community on their knowledge of UFOs/UAPs. It’s expected to be out later this month.

Just come right out and say it! That was the approach taken by Task & Purpose’s Jeff Schogol, a journalist who asked John F. Kirby, the DoD’s primary spokesperson, a very direct question about what the Pentagon holds in terms of alien bodies and spacecraft. His question was delivered during a press conference last week.

“There’s no way that I can sugar coat this. I was talking to a gentleman about the UAP report. He contends the Pentagon has alien bodies and crafts. So I wanted to run this past you, does the DoD have these things and if so, where?”

It really doesn’t get more direct than this, and the response returned by Kirby seemed taken aback by such a direct question,

“The UAP Task Force is really designed to take a look at these unexplained aerial phenomena and try to help us get a better understanding of them. Again, I’m not going to get ahead of the report that the DNI will submit that we are helping, obviously, and providing input to and I’ll just leave it at that, Jeff.”

Perhaps the upcoming report will answer questions like this, but given the longstanding secrecy US intelligence communities have applied to this subject, it’s unlikely.

If you’re a bit more fresh into the UFO discussion, the answer from Kirby may seem normal. The spokesperson would rather heed to the upcoming report and allow it to do the talking. But if you’ve been at this a while, this answer is classic to most questions like this over the last 70 years – vague, lacking clarity, and an awkwardness suggesting those in charge know a lot more than they are letting on.

One key takeaway here might be that journalists who have access to such press conferences might assist the public by asking such direct questions more often. As journalists educate themselves on the depth of what is already known about the ET and UFO phenomenon, perhaps questions can become deeper and perhaps derive more revealing information from government officials over time. Soft ball questions like we commonly see will only allow these subjects to remain in secrecy like they have for the last 70+ years.

For what it’s worth, in my educated opinion having researched this subject for 12 years and having worked alongside fellow journalists in our outfit who have as well, I’d bet a great deal on the fact that the US government is in possession of ET bodies and ET craft.

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