- The Facts:
A recent article in published in the New Yorker brings up the topic of UFO crash retrievals. This article summarizes what was said by a former U.S. senator, and much more.
- Reflect On:
Why is so much information about this topic, and many others concealed from the public, is it really about "national security" or is there another reason for all of the secrecy?
Before you begin...
A recently published article in The New Yorker written by Gideon Lewis-Kraus, previously a writer-at-large for the New York Times Magazine, goes quite in-depth into the UFO phenomenon. It’s always great when the topic attains more “legitimacy” within the mainstream, but it’s unfortunate that something has to be presented in this fashion for it to receive legitimacy.
The article mentions the topic of UFO crash retrievals, which is the idea that governments have, in this case the U.S. government, recovered debris from crashed UFOs. It mentions Harry Reid, a retired American attorney and politician who served as a United States Senator in Nevada from 1987 to 2017. Reid has been quite active in trying to get congress and others within the government to look into this issue more in order to bring it out into the public domain.
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We already know that the Pentagon has, and has had, programs to study the phenomenon. This is a matter of public record. The agency disclosed to the public is called “Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force”, but remember that the United States has a history of government agencies existing in secret for years. The National Security Agency (NSA) was founded in 1952, its existence was hidden until the mid 1960’s. Even more secretive is the National Reconnaissance Office, which was founded in 1960 but remained completely secret for 30 years.
According to the article, Reid states that he,
“was told for decades that Lockheed had some of these retrieved materials, […] And I tried to get, as I recall, a classified approval by the Pentagon to have me go look at the stuff. They would not approve that. I don’t know what all the numbers were, what kind of classification it was, but they would not give that to me.”
Kraus reached out to Lockheed but there was no response.
Speaking of Lockheed, Steve Justice, a recently retired Director of Advanced Systems at Lockheed Skunkworks, has also alluded to the idea that this type of technology is real. He has been quite outspoken about the “black budget” world, and crafts that can mimic the capabilities that are observed in unidentified aerial phenomenon by, as he once said, employing a driver system that alters the space-time metric. He once stated:
“We have glimpses of how the physics of this works, but we need to harvest technologies from the Science Division to realize the capability.” (source)
I saw him state this during a livestream as well, when he was with To The Stars Academy. He has since left this organization.
His statement is another way of saying that these technologies exist within the “science division”, wherever that may be.
This is an idea that has been given credibility by many “high ranking” people from within various governments. For example, Apollo 13 astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell once told the world that “Yes there have been crashed craft, and bodies recovered.” He is seen making these statements in this documentary.
Eric W. Davis, a renowned astrophysicist who worked with the Pentagon UFO program stated that he gave a classified briefing to a Defense Department Agency, as recently as March 2020 about retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this Earth.” Christopher Mellon, a former Deputy Assistant Defense Secretary for Intelligence from 1997 to 2002 has confirmed that he was present during this testimony. He himself has been quite outspoken about the phenomenon over the past few years. Dr. David Clarke, an investigative journalist, reader and lecturer at Sheffield Hallam University who was also the curator for The National Archives UFO Project from 2008–2013, came across some interesting documents suggesting that the UK was desperate to capture UFO technology. Paul Hellyer, former Canadian defence minister claimed that the protocol when military jets were scrambled to intercept a UFO was to “shoot first and ask questions after.”
These are simply a few of many examples that lend credibility to how government has viewed UFOs over the decades. Interestingly, the most viewed document in the FBI archive is about a supposed crash of three UFOs that contained bodies inside.
Have governments done anything with this technology?
Documents obtained by The Drive show that revolutionary technology that has the capability to alter space-time may actually be “operable”, according to Naval Aviation Enterprise Chief Technology Officer Dr. James Sheehy, seen in the picture above. You can read more about that story here.
What about the supposed bodies? How did these objects crash? Were they brought down by us? I hope not, but given the nature of our race it’s not unlikely to assume that we would be more of a threat to life in the cosmos than an extraterrestrial space faring race would be to us, but that’s just me speculating. I don’t know. What I do find interesting about the phenomenon is that most of the examples that are available in the public domain show that they perform evasive maneuvers.
This has been emphasized by many, like Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer in 2008, General Nathan Twining in the 1940’s, and more recently Richard F. Haines, a senior NASA research scientist for more than two decades now.
In my research I haven’t really come across anything that is indicative of a threat, so I hope mainstream coverage and government disclosure doesn’t take it there. That doesn’t mean that there aren’t legitimate “national security” concerns, but to take the stance that these objects represent a threat doesn’t seem to be evidence based in my opinion.
Why This Is Important
Mainstream UFO disclosure can be confusing. For example, why is the military witness testimony of certain pilots involved in a UFO incident that was released and confirmed by the Pentagon a few years ago credible and worthy of mainstream coverage, but the testimony of a high ranking Air Force Colonel, like Ross Dedrickson, not brought up at all?
Is this because Dedrickson claimed to have knowledge about extraterrestrials and what they are concerned about? Is this going too far for people? Again, who dictates and determines “what is too much” for people to handle? Why determines what is credible and not credible? Is it because there is no data about ETs? Or is it because data about ETs has been withheld, just as data about UFOs were withheld?
When UFOs were ridiculed, there was a lot of “evidence” for their existence. There is a lot of “evidence” for the idea that some of these objects are not human in origin, but again, a lot of people still have “feelings” about taking it there.
Will we ever get the entire truth?
Kraus states in his article that,
The government may or may not care about the resolution of the U.F.O enigma. But in throwing up its hands and granting that there are things it simply cannot figure out, it has relaxed its grip on the taboo. For many, this has been a comfort.
It’s great to see and know that this topic is no longer taboo to discuss. But again, it’s unfortunate that there seems to be a “mainstream culture”, for lack of a better word, that dictates what can be spoken about still. Why does this culture get to decide when something is taboo or not? Furthermore, if governments and intelligence agencies come out and say “this is what we know” can we really trust them at this point? Is it really all they know? Is releasing some information a way to stop the conversation about it, or at least limit it?
For example, when a program or information is declassified, how can we be so certain that that’s all there is to it? Is more information concealed for national security purposes, or other purposes? What implications might that secrecy still have?
Media and government manipulation is something citizens always have be be wary of. A CIA document pertaining to media and government relationship states that the CIA task force:
“now has relationships with reporters from every major wire service, newspaper, news weekly, and television network in the nation, [and that] “this has helped us turn some ‘intelligence failure’ stories into ‘intelligence success” stories,’ and has contributed to the accuracy of countless others.” [the agency has] “persuaded reporters to postpone, change, hold, or even scrap stories that could have adversely affected national security interests or jeopardized sources and methods.”
Let’s not forget about operation Mockingbird.
Although it is a document outlining their desire to become more open and transparent, the deception outlined by various whistleblowers and pieces of evidence requires us to read between the lines and recognize that the relationships shared between intelligence agencies and our sources of information are not always warranted and pose inherent conflicts of interest.
Herein lies the problem: What is “national security,” and who determines that definition? JFK bravely told the world that the:
“dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweigh the dangers which are cited to justify it. […] there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.”
What are the justifications for UFO secrecy?
Don’t get me wrong, I am quite convinced that there are many people within government, normal people like you and me, who simply want to know what this phenomenon is all about and are passionate about truth and transparency. It’s a complicated topic that’s been drenched in secrecy for years. As far as why this secrecy has occurred is an entirely different discussion. Perhaps this campaign of secrecy was done with the best of intentions? Perhaps not? Perhaps it is and was a mix of both? I don’t know, but there’s nothing wrong with discussing and speculating, especially in a time when speculation and opinion are being condemned in multiple fields.
I also believe there are other reasons for secrecy that go beyond “it’s too much for the people to handle” and that “it’s a national security issue.” These reasons may go into protecting certain interests, like profits of the energy industry among others. Based on my research, any type of technology that can release humanity’s dependence on big corporations is somehow always kept on the back-burner, at least until it can be monopolized and put out in a way that benefits those who control it.
UFO technology could perhaps collapse the entire economy and our way of life as we know it by offering new modes of energy generation that, as Tesla once said, use the “wheelwork of nature.” Maybe that’s a good thing. Maybe there are ways to provide abundance to all without requiring us to work within our current demanding lifestyles? Perhaps we don’t have to be dependant on money?
Reasons like this are sometimes hard for people to examine. It can be scary for some to even contemplate the idea of a government or powerful set of people who are actively taking measures to prevent humanity from thriving. Perhaps that is a conspiracy theory? Perhaps it’s not. I do believe there is enough information and evidence to at least have that conversation, and I think it’s an important one to have and consider.
But as you could note by my above statements, the UFO topic has the potential to change how we live our day to day lives in society due to what abundance it could provide for the average person. While this is not obvious when exploring the subject, this has been one of the drivers of our passionate research over the years.
As I’ve said many times, I don’t think we will ever get anything significant from government disclosure than what’s already known about the phenomenon among researchers who have been studying it for decades. So don’t get your hopes up. Perhaps the fact that these objects are real is all we will get, but who knows?
Is this an issue where the citizenry has to take initiative to find out more? Why is the idea, for example, of trying to make contact with these objects in a citizen initiated way taboo or “crazy” within the mainstream? If we want to find out more about this topic, perhaps we have to try and do so ourselves? Why is it that when government tries to find out, it’s “official” but when citizens try and do it, it’s a “cult?”
Are human beings at a point in our culture where we are capable of exploring this topic without labelling phenomenon as “demonic” or “angelic.” Can’t we just accept that there may be other consciousness’ in the universe that takes on a similar, but different physical form? The discussion of what these objects are seems to be the next step, and it’s being had, but it’s taken decades for the topic to exit the “taboo” realm, how long will it take for the implications of the phenomenon and deeper questions that it leads to, to be considered no longer taboo?
It leaves no aspect of humanity untouched, it goes into consciousness, physics, the nature of our society, history, other dimensions and more, but many people within this community don’t want to go there until it is “confirmed” by a “credible” source. This in my opinion is a problem.
Some sources the masses rely on as “credible” are more manipulative than credible, and that’s something we have to come to terms with. It’s OK to speculate. Perhaps our definition of “evidence” needs to change in order to go above and beyond the limitations of “science.”
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US Air Force is Building Telemetry Stations Along The East Coast To Track UAP Activity
- The Facts:
Several telemetry stations are set to be built along the US east coast to begin tracking UAP activity.
- Reflect On:
Are these truly signs that the US military is now taking this subject seriously? Or has it done so behind the scenes for quite some time?
Before you begin...
The United States Air Force will construct a new telemetry station in Florida that will use cutting-edge tracking equipment to record data mainly from UFOs. This development is most likely connected to Aviator Ryan Graves’ assertion that there were sensitive air space intrusions practically daily on Florida’s East Coast for two years. For decades, the United States Department of Defense has reserved the specific air space in question for national security concerns. It is clearly a no-fly zone.
I had contacted the Plans Examiner Supervisor for Pasco County’s Building Department at the time of this writing. For the past seven years, Jeff Robert Blask has had the distinction of being a part of substantial progress. He has assessed construction designs for buildings ranging from new residences to new hospitals to guarantee compliance with the Florida Building Code.
A Project Engineer contacted Pasco County in April 2021 to obtain a permit for the facility’s construction. Mr. Blask understood from his expertise that the Federal Government does not require licenses to develop on state or municipal territory, therefore he was perplexed as to why permission was being asked for what was clearly a military complex. When Jeff inquired, the Project Engineer stated that the property was leased rather than owned by the federal government. As a result, the exemption is inapplicable.
The location is made up of multiple structures, including a 100-foot tall tower with a radar dome, two 50-foot collapsible auxiliary towers, and an elevated monitoring facility with an observation deck.
Jeff Blask wrote in his publication —
“Normally, I wouldn’t look at this particular project with too much zeal especially since MacDill Air Force Base is about 45 miles south at the southern tip of Tampa Bay. MacDill is Central Command for Middle Eastern operations. However, being that I am a life-long UFO enthusiast and given everything occurring recently, my radar went off, no pun intended.”
Mr. Blask said to the Project Engineer “Wow! That’s some hefty equipment. This is obviously for tracking possible UAP activity that we’ve had around our coasts in recent years.”
“You got it! And as a matter of fact, if you are interested in that subject it may also interest you to know that this facility is not being manned and monitored by MacDill Air Force Base… it’s being monitored in its entirety by Eglin.” responded the Project Engineer.
“The assets themselves are not classified, however, the data that will be collected is. Therefore, this facility will be under heavily armed guards and only people with Top Secret clearance will be allowed in.” Added the Engineer that Mr. Flask was speaking with.
Jeff Flask has written in his own story posted to thejolt.net that he has learned that the private contractor has been asked to construct several similar facilities along with the coastal areas.
“Needless to say, I was somewhat speechless. First and foremost, he so nonchalantly confirmed what this site was to be used for and secondly, this site is being monitored by Eglin Air Force Base, a large 640 square mile base that’s about 60 miles east of Pensacola; not MacDill our local base here in the greater Tampa Bay Area.” stated Jeff Blask.
This demonstrated to him, at his own grassroots level, that the military is now taking the UAP issue seriously.
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The Six Layers of The UFO Phenomenon
- The Facts:
Dr. Eric Davis is a consultant with numerous government research studies (AATIP, AWSAP, NIDS etc). Vallee & Davis were scientists for NIDS, a research organization privately funded by Robert Bigelow of Bigelow Aerospace, a US government contractor
- Reflect On:
Can we expect that the government's version of UFO/UAP disclosure is going to be forthcoming and honest?
Before you begin...
The US government has something vital to say to us, but it is having difficulty finding the perfect words. The UAP Task Force report to Congress will almost certainly contain evidence that will make scientific doubters extremely uncomfortable. However, those hoping for specific wording from officials labeling the Phenomenon as “alien” or “extraterrestrial” in order to make a decision will be disappointed.
Scientists that have examined the phenomenon, including those with security clearances and contracts with the United States Department of Defense, as well as those from academic institutions, are having difficulty determining if UFOs are physical, psychological, extra-terrestrial, or inter-dimensional. However, they all agree that something of high-strangeness is occurring.
It may be argued that the spirit of the UAPTF report to Congress is to get this information out there without generating widespread fear.
What I feel is going on here is that the few people in the US administration who are aware of the problem feel it has a psychological component to it and is unsure how to deal with it.
As earth-shattering as the topic of non-human intelligence is, it would be much easier to explain that UFOs were a group of young stalwarts in an advanced civilization on Planet X of the star Sirius or otherwise, getting liquored up on a weekend, and hopping into the old space jalopy, motoring over to Planet Earth, and jollying the natives.
Dr. Jacques Vallée has long been considered as the most renowned scientific investigator of unexplained aerial occurrences. In Steven Spielberg’s Close Encounters of the Third Kind, he inspired the character of the French UFO researcher. Vallée studied mathematics at the Sorbonne and astrophysics at Lille University. He co-created NASA’s first computer-based comprehensive map of Mars. He worked for the U.S. Air Force’s senior scientific consultant on UFOs under Project Blue Book. He is now working on a project to investigate UFO materials in a Silicon Valley lab. After a long life of trying to understand this phenomenon, Dr. Vallée confesses that:
“Human beings are under the control of a strange force that bends them in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role of a bizarre game of deception.”
Dr. Eric Davis is yet another researcher on the cutting edge of the UAP field. For decades, he has advised the United States government, most notably on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the Advanced Weapons Special Application Program (AWSAP), and others. According to Dr. Davis,
“…there is a lot of evidence that the government has known, but the problem is, it’s so outside the realm of human comprehension that they can’t deal with it on a legislative basis, they can’t deal with it on a military, operational basis, they can’t deal with it on the basis of presidential policy.”
So what informs the researchers’ fear?
A recently discovered study titled “Incommensurability, Orthodoxy, and the Physics of High Strangeness: A 6-Layer Model for Anomalous Phenomena,” co-written by both Dr. Vallée and Dr. Davis, sheds some light on some data points and intelligence commissioned by the National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS). The very organization that gave rise to AWSAP and research at Skin Walker Ranch.
In the paper, the researchers provide a novel methodology for UAP analysis that also incorporates SETI findings. In every scientific question, we must be able to determine the amount to which a hypothesis, when verified and confirmed to be accurate, “explains” the observed facts. However, in the case of UAP, like in physics generally, a hypothesis may be “confirmed true” while an apparently conflicting theory is also proven correct. We must be prepared for the day when we will be able to construct scientific hypotheses for UAP, and we may be faced with a similar predicament.
Dr. Vallée and Dr. Davis’ approach is built on an apparent contradiction since they believe that UAP may be viewed as both physical and “psychological.” They think it will be exciting as a cohesive approach to a perplexing event that exhibits both undeniable physical effects like a technological gadget or craft and mental effects reminiscent of poltergeist and psychokinetic phenomena literature. They use the term “psychic” to refer to the relationship between physical reality and human awareness.
As just one example, the occurrences at Fatima included light phenomena, atmospheric and temperature effects, and accounts of an apparently metallic disc in the sky, while many of the 70,000 witnesses also experienced spiritual and psychological impacts. The primary witnesses experienced mental states favorable to extrasensory connection with a non-human entity presumed to be the Virgin Mary.
The sense of absurdity and contradiction in these two aspects is comparable to scientific perplexity during the particle/wave or, more recently, quantum entanglement and multi-dimensional transport debates. The paradox stems from our language’s inability to comprehend a phenomenon that defies definition.
The researchers find six major “layers” in terms of human perceptions of these traits when analyzing the characteristics of sightings that cannot be explained by basic natural explanations. The first one is the “physical layer,” which is seen in most witness reports describing an object. This layer contains all of the data that we can perceive using our senses and equipment. For instance, how an item occupies a location in space in accordance with geometry, or how it leaves material residue in accordance with Earth’s chemistry. Thus, in a fundamental physical sense, UAP is consistent with a technology based on a craft that looks to use a revolutionary propulsion mechanism. Because of the existence of this layer, conventional ufologists have claimed that UFOs and similar occurrences were caused by extraterrestrial technologies.
For lack of a better phrase, the researchers refer to this second layer as “anti-physical.” The variables are the same as those in the physical category, but they generate patterns that contradict what mainstream physics predicts: Objects are defined as physical matter, yet they may also be described as “sinking into the earth” or “shrinking in size, getting larger, or changing shape on the spot.” Another typical complaint with this layer is that the craft becomes blurry or translucent on the spot.
Other anti-physical observations have been documented, including –
- Dividing into two or more things, many of which merge into one object at a slow speed
- Disappearing at one spot and reappearing somewhere else instantly
- Remaining clearly visible while not being detected by radar
- Creating time dilation or missing time
- Causing topological inversion or space dilatation (the item was judged to have a tiny exterior size/volume, but witnesses saw a massive interior many times the outside size)
- Appearing as colorful, incredibly brilliant light balls under intelligence control
The third layer is concerned with the psychology of the witnesses as well as the social circumstances that surround them. Human observers are more likely to notice UAP when they are in their typical habitat and social groups. They notice the things are unusual, but they try to explain them away as ordinary occurrences until they are forced to admit that the thing was actually unknown.
Physiological reactions are another significant level of information. The phenomenon is reported to cause effects perceived by humans sound (beeping, buzzing, humming, whistling, roaring, etc), vibrations, burns, partial paralysis (inability to move muscles), extreme heat or cold sensation, odors (powerful, sweet, or strange fragrance, rotten eggs, sulfurous, pungent, musky, etc), metallic taste, pricklings, temporary blindness when directly exposed to objects light, nausea, bloody nose and/or ears; severe headache, difficulty breathing, loss of volition, severe drowsiness in the days following.
The fifth effect category can only be labeled psychic because it involved a class of phenomena commonly found in parapsychology literature, such as impressions of communication without a direct sensory channel, motions and sounds without a specific cause, and motions and sounds outside the observed presence of a UAP. Levitation of the witness or of nearby objects and animals. A UAP’s maneuvers seemed to anticipate the witness’ thoughts. Personality changes promoting unusual abilities in the witness, such as healing others.
The sixth and last category could be referred to as cultural. It is concerned with how society reacts to the reports, how secondary effects (hoaxes, fiction, and science-fiction imagery, scientific theories, cover-up or exposure, media censorship or publicity, sensationalism, etc.) emerge, and how members of a given culture perceive the concepts that UAP observations appear to challenge. The phenomenon’s largest influence in the United States must be on broad acceptance of the concept of life in space, as well as a more restricted, but possibly very substantial, alteration in the common perception of non-human intellect. The cultural backdrop of anomalous findings was heavily influenced by religious beliefs in prior societies such as medieval Europe or Portugal in the early years of the twentieth century.
What Are We Dealing With?
A framework for scientific hypothesis on the UAP observations can be built on the identification of the six major layers of UAP effects. If we formulate a view of the problem in a single statement at this point, that statement will be:
Everything works as if UAPs were products of a technology that integrates physical and psychic phenomena and primarily affects cultural variables in our society through the manipulation of physiological and psychological parameters in the witnesses.
The purpose of the technology may be cultural manipulation- possibly but not necessarily under the control of a form of non-human intelligence — in which case the physiological and psychological effects are meant to that end. But the parapsychologist with a Jungian framework may argue that the human collective unconscious is also a potential source of such effects — without the need to invoke alien intervention.
A Covert Request for Help
In a recent podcast, Sam Harris said that the highest echelons of the US government had reached out to him and other members of his network to ask for their assistance in disseminating UAP knowledge to the public. Sam Harris is an American author, philosopher, neuroscientist, and podcast host. His work spans logic, religion, ethics, free will, neuroscience, meditation, psychedelics, philosophy of mind, politics, terrorism, and artificial intelligence. Reaching out to thought leaders like Sam Harris is a significant step forward for the US intelligence community. On June 5th, Hal Puthoff, another scientist with the highest levels of security clearance, presented to the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies, and the essence of his message was that it was time for the intelligence community to hand over the data they had gathered to the scientific establishment.
Perhaps the UAP Taskforce Report to Congress is a covert request for assistance from a government out of alternatives and ideas.
But first, they must overcome the stigma that they have established. And the plans are in motion.
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Pentagon Spokesperson Questioned On DoD Having Possession Of Alien Bodies & Crafts
- The Facts:
Journalist Jeff Schogol asked the DoD's primary spokesperson John F. Kirby a very direct question about whether the Pentagon secretly holds alien bodies and spacecraft.
- Reflect On:
Can we expect an honest and complete revelation from the UAP report compiled by the US Intelligence community that's expected later this month?
Before you begin...
UFOs have gone from zero to hero in what seems like a week. A topic once ridiculed by mainstream culture now fronts some of the most credible and widely read newspapers in the world. Currently, many are eagerly waiting for what they believe will be an honest and revealing report from the US intelligence community on their knowledge of UFOs/UAPs. It’s expected to be out later this month.
Just come right out and say it! That was the approach taken by Task & Purpose’s Jeff Schogol, a journalist who asked John F. Kirby, the DoD’s primary spokesperson, a very direct question about what the Pentagon holds in terms of alien bodies and spacecraft. His question was delivered during a press conference last week.
“There’s no way that I can sugar coat this. I was talking to a gentleman about the UAP report. He contends the Pentagon has alien bodies and crafts. So I wanted to run this past you, does the DoD have these things and if so, where?”
It really doesn’t get more direct than this, and the response returned by Kirby seemed taken aback by such a direct question,
“The UAP Task Force is really designed to take a look at these unexplained aerial phenomena and try to help us get a better understanding of them. Again, I’m not going to get ahead of the report that the DNI will submit that we are helping, obviously, and providing input to and I’ll just leave it at that, Jeff.”
— Disclosure Team (@disclosureteam_) June 4, 2021
Perhaps the upcoming report will answer questions like this, but given the longstanding secrecy US intelligence communities have applied to this subject, it’s unlikely.
If you’re a bit more fresh into the UFO discussion, the answer from Kirby may seem normal. The spokesperson would rather heed to the upcoming report and allow it to do the talking. But if you’ve been at this a while, this answer is classic to most questions like this over the last 70 years – vague, lacking clarity, and an awkwardness suggesting those in charge know a lot more than they are letting on.
One key takeaway here might be that journalists who have access to such press conferences might assist the public by asking such direct questions more often. As journalists educate themselves on the depth of what is already known about the ET and UFO phenomenon, perhaps questions can become deeper and perhaps derive more revealing information from government officials over time. Soft ball questions like we commonly see will only allow these subjects to remain in secrecy like they have for the last 70+ years.
For what it’s worth, in my educated opinion having researched this subject for 12 years and having worked alongside fellow journalists in our outfit who have as well, I’d bet a great deal on the fact that the US government is in possession of ET bodies and ET craft.
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